This is how I feel about most people on MM SS.

[Warrior74]

http://www.rooshv.com/i-dont-believe-you

Men decide what they value in life based on their perceived limitations, already calculated by their subconscious. A man who is lazy will instinctively hate on money. A man who is anti-social will hate on game. A man who cannot love will hate on marriage. These are self-protection mechanisms, just like how a woman who can’t find a quality man flocks to feminism as her personal religion. If a game hater sees a player with a pretty girl, he must rationalize that their relationship is “shallow.” If a marriage hater reads about expats meeting feminine women who cook, he must rationalize that those women “don’t really love them.” If a low-wage cubicle peon sees a man making a lot of money on the internet, he must rationalize that the business is hard, risky, and unsustainable.

It’s okay to admit you are jealous.

I personally cannot love. I tend to hate on marriage. I've said marriage is for suckers a thousand times. I know that I'm pretty broken when it comes to feeling love. My daughter is the only one that stirs those feelings in me. I don't hate on much else though.

 

[Bible_Belt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimisation_(psychology)

 

[Zarky]

Number one I hate the term "hate on," I wonder what that means about me.

Second, doesn't that seem like a gross over-generalization? Everybody who doesn't want to get married is incapable of love? Everybody who isn't interested in making big bucks is lazy? Every guy who doesn't want to "run game" on girls is antisocial?

There are 7 billion people in the world, I'm sure explaining the behavior of every single one of them in one sentence or concept is a bit simplistic, don't you think?

How about this one: Everybody who over-simplifies human behavior is incapable of dealing with the fact that human behavior is extremely complex and often unknowable.

 

[Scormus]

*Everything is a tradeoff. If they have something, they gave something up for it.

Not always. Looks are largely determined by genetic lottery.

 

[Boilermaker]

Very good post, and I somewhat agree.

Men who talk about women rationalizing (or deluding themselves) are usually forgetting that they are suffering from the same disease as well.

But this won't fly here.

The trouble is , there are too many empty words flying around.

Logic doesn't mean anything; you can't figure out the world without facts.

I rarely see facts, I just see rambling, anger.

 

[Jules_Winfield]

http://www.rooshv.com/i-dont-believe-you



I personally cannot love. I tend to hate on marriage. I've said marriage is for suckers a thousand times. I know that I'm pretty broken when it comes to feeling love. My daughter is the only one that stirs those feelings in me. I don't hate on much else though.

When it comes to marriage, I feel the same way. Every time I think about it logically, I can tell you for a fact it's a bad idea (in America) and why. I've met only a handful of happily married men, but their wives weren't happy. They will more than likely divorce if their wives are ever exposed to men who exemplify the qualities they desire.

We live in a time when rape, abuse, and molestation are widespread. It's a secret epidemic in this country. These women are broken and should be avoided. Of all the "healthy" women left, you then need to find one that doesn't have any issues like too little or too much self-esteem, promiscuity because "they are a woman of the times," lack of sex drive, spoiled, etc...

Most (I didn't say all) of the women you date won't really love you. If a relationship with a woman goes beyond a ONS, let the games begin. Usually, you are a conduit to her dreams: babies, lifestyle, a relationship to keep up with friends or hide their true sexuality.

 

[backbreaker]

Very good post, and I somewhat agree.

Men who talk about women rationalizing (or deluding themselves) are usually forgetting that they are suffering from the same disease as well.

But this won't fly here.

The trouble is , there are too many empty words flying around.

Logic doesn't mean anything; you can't figure out the world without facts.

I rarely see facts, I just see rambling, anger.

holy **** he word is coming to an end I just repped boliermaker lol.

great post.

I think the main thing to differentiate is it's one thing to not be married, it's another thing to HATE THE IDEA OF MARIAGE and it's an entirely different level to spew hated about marriage and the mindest of people who like marriage.

that last step is the disconnect. zekko doesn't want to get married. but he doesn't ***** me out for being married and he doesn't tell other guys on this forum not to get married and he doesn't tell guys that they are faggots if they want to get married.


there are people on this forum in different areas it's like it's a sore spot if someone is that hurt / angry / bitter about something it's not because "they are right" It's because they are over compensating / hurting about that area.

 

[Peaks&Valleys]

The presumption is that anyone lacking in something is consumed with jealousy over it and rationalizes his lacking. This is not necessarily true. E.g., I would be happy to have more money, but I acknowledge that I don't want to spend all my free time earning dollars. I'm not jealous of the choices of others, who may work 70 hours a week to become wealthy. I don't rationalize that they are unhappy simply because they have something I don't.* I cannot really presume to know what someone else is feeling. What matters to me is being comfortable with my own decisions, not someone else's.

*Everything is a tradeoff. If they have something, they gave something up for it.

You're not most people

 

[Boilermaker]

*Everything is a tradeoff. If they have something, they gave something up for it.

This is the giveaway line. So your rationale is, if they have something that you don't have but would like to have, they must have given something up for it.

Rationalization at its best.

No, not everything is a trade-off, that's a very simplistic way of thinking about life. Some people are lucky, some people inherit money, some people are at the right place at the right time making them own/have things/skills/experiences that you don't have but you envy,

and they haven't given up anything for it.

Yes, there are people who have given up on other stuff to become richer, but they are only a subset of people who have all those things that you don't have.

Choosing to focus on this second group is your way of rationalizing your lack of skills/resources.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Sam,
"What's marriage got to do with love?"....Well can you think of a quicker way to kill it?

 

[Boilermaker]

If I see a $20 bill on the ground I still have to pay the price to pick it up.

If this is what you mean by that profound statement "Everything has a price"; I think this discussion have run its course.