"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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This girl is really intersted, but plays wierd head games..

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First off i'd like to say that im a newbie to the C&F thing, it's really woking wonders.. Anyway I know this girl who is very interested im me, her body language is saying "come and get me"!! We are not strangers, in fact we used to work with each other before I transferred to another store. I used to C&F thing on her and it obviously worked, she started initiating conversations with me and such, but when I initiate conversations with her sometimes she just ignores me...or finds a fast way to end the conversation. she'll also act busy when she really isnt...but at the same time she'll hold eye contact with me... i'm thinking I screwed up and started acting like a wuss.. But I can tell shes still interested in me...is she just shy or am I being to hard on her with the C&F?

I dont think this makes a difference but heres some details.. i'm 20, white, shes 18, hispanic.

any suggestions on what to do now will be great!!

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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Judging from what you've said here, she doesn't seem overly interested.

More info please.
 
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ok, everytime i'm around her she seems to be nervous, she'll constantly glance at me, she smiles but only sometimes, she will start flirting with other guys (in an attempt to make me jealous i think), her face lights up when she sees me, sometimes when talking with her she'll talk about anything and wont shut up, other times shes very quiet and doesnt say much. I saw her for the first time in about a month 2 days ago, even though i didnt talk with her she seemed very happy to see me..I dont know what other details to add, i hope this helps..
 
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If she likes playing mind games Run Boy RUN !!!!! because she will only trick you. Now she could be having mood swings and ups and downs. Everyone has them and remember women do wonder what you think of them so she dosen't want you to think she boring. I have a question dose she do all this in 1 day or different days? If you really want to see if she interested then ask for her number, lead in for a kiss or ask her on a date. :confused:
 
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no shes doesnt do all of this in one day, what i have listed has happened over a period of three months or so, I was thinking about simply asking her to meet somewhere. I find its much better to ask a girl to meet somewhere and then get her number "just incase plans change". Although with this girl im not sot sure what to do, its like shes a different person sometimes..
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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mind games? what mind games? the one playing mind games is yours.
stop thinking like a AFC and starting hunting for her pants.
 
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Originally posted by justme20
First off i'd like to say that im a newbie to the C&F thing, it's really woking wonders.. Anyway I know this girl who is very interested im me, her body language is saying "come and get me"!! We are not strangers, in fact we used to work with each other before I transferred to another store. I used to C&F thing on her and it obviously worked, she started initiating conversations with me and such, but when I initiate conversations with her sometimes she just ignores me...or finds a fast way to end the conversation. she'll also act busy when she really isnt...but at the same time she'll hold eye contact with me... i'm thinking I screwed up and started acting like a wuss.. But I can tell shes still interested in me...is she just shy or am I being to hard on her with the C&F?

I dont think this makes a difference but heres some details.. i'm 20, white, shes 18, hispanic.

any suggestions on what to do now will be great!!

:)
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Well, I need more details really.

How are you starting the conversations?
What are you doing exactly?

As for the hot-cold treatment, you need to freeze that out. If she isn't going to give you attention, then don't reward her. We don't reinforce bad behavior, do we?

But make sure that when you freeze out you have somewhere nearby to go. Don't just sit there waiting for her. She wins if you do that. Even better if you can turn the freeze into a bit of negging with social proof thrown in.

You: "Hey, that's not your drink, is it? That looks awfully fruity." *wry grin*
Her: "I -like- these."
You: "Well, ok, ok, just make sure you take some insulin to deal with all the sugar." *wink*
Her: *smiles weakly* *turns back*
You (within SECONDS): "Hey, Kate Moss, look at this drink my new friend has."
Kate Moss (turning around): "Huh?"
You: "Doesn't this look fruity?"
Kate Moss: "Well..."
You (to HB): "See? Told you." *grin*
Her: *Getting annoyed*
You: "Waitress, I'll have one of these!" *grin again*

So, you punished her gently for turning her back. (When she does that she gets teased and you pay attention to skinny supermodels). You negged her gently, but then made it clear you were kidding and got the same drink. Plus, you got the social proof from the supermodel. (Kate Moss does hang out at your bar of choice, right?)

Now you can see what she does. If you don't get some IOI out of this, time to go hang out with Kate Moss. Hey, she was good enough for Depp and she can probably score good coke to, if you're into that.
 
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