"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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this girl is giving me a headache

blueline

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(edit: Sorry that this post is kind of long, but I want to nail all the details on this thing to clear out any ambiguity)

So, I met this girl under pretty random circumstances about 4 months ago that I decided to go after because it was my final semester of undergrad and I was still a virgin, thus I was getting kind of desperate. She's kind of below my standards (probably could use to lose about 17-20 pounds) and she isn't quite on my wavelength intellectually (she's a Catholic whereas I'm an atheist, she seems a bit conservative, and she gets **** grades in her classes while I graduated magna *** laude and care a lot about academia), but regardless of these differences, we hit it off really well. There's something about talking to her that is just a lot of fun (probably just oxytocin and other hormones kicking in), and over time, I've started to think she's kinda cute actually.

So upon meeting her for like the second time, I decide to ask her out to go get some coffee right there. In my head, I'm thinking "Eh, she's kind of chubby, what could possibly go wrong if she rejects you? You've got nothing to lose" before biting the bullet and asking her out.

Considering that it's the first date I've ever been on, the coffee date goes well and we have a lot of fun conversing with each other. I find out that she's into karate, and as a sort of joke, I offer to show her how to grapple someday and she's all about it. She's sort of touchy feely (nothing beyond friendly stuff, though) and pretty flirty with me throughout the course of this whole thing.

During the week that follows the first date, we decide to go see a concert towards the end of the week with one of her friends. On the day of the concert, I tell her that I can't make it because I need to finish writing a gigantic paper due the following morning, and in response, she says something like "I have karate anyways and Beth couldn't make it." So I just shrug and say whatever because I don't really care if Beth can come or not.

A couple days later, I ask her if she wants to go see a movie at the drive-in theater sometime and she seems to be interested as we go through a bunch of movies we'd like to see. What threw me off here, though, is that she once again tells me her friend is going to come along. After clarifying that I intend for this drive-in thing to be a date, she tells me something along the lines of "I'm not looking for a relationship right now." While she had broken up with her bf of 2 years a month before this, I (rightly?) interpret the aforementioned statement as "I'm not into you in that way." So, after this, I cut my losses and end up questioning my entire approach to women after failing with a chubby girl, which leads to insane depression, and when combined with other things going on in my life last summer (graduating from college as a virgin with no friends due to being a commuter student the whole time, employment prospects being extremely shaky, and just general extreme confusion about where my life is heading), the thought of suicide crosses my mind at least a few times.

The most annoying thing during that time period is that this girl still insists on talking to me over AIM whenever I sign on as if she never rejected me before. I block her on AIM and facebook thinking that it will get rid of her, but it doesn't, because I end up bumping into her at the library while finishing up my senior thesis that summer and she insists on being friendly with me. So, I give in and decide to just be friends with her. At this point, I drop all my flirtatiousness and she seems to also, but the whole thing eventually fades out towards the end of the summer.

This brings us to a few weeks ago, when I had thought I had finally gotten her out of my head, she starts talking to me on AIM again every single time I sign on. I tell her that I might be dropping by the university library (I live right next to the school) to pick up some books to read between now and grad school this spring, and she insists upon meeting up while I'm.

When we meet up, one of the first things she brings up is my new job as an auditor and how much I make (it's a really good salary for a recent grad). During the time we spend hanging out that day, we get coffee and then go see a movie. The whole time, she's ramped up the flirty vibe hardcore and she starts touching my biceps when she wants to get my attention. During the coffee, there's some sustained direct eye contact, tons of teasing, and it generally feels like the first date I had with her, but a lot more intense on the flirting aspect. During this conversation, she also reminds me that I offered to show her how to grapple and that she'd really like me to teach her how sometime (wtf, this is certainly not the kind of **** you do with a guy unless you want him to pop a boner). On top of this, she keeps telling me how I'm way different from most of the people she's met, and how cool and funny I am.

So that brings us to the movie in which a lot of weird **** happens that I'm not sure about. We end up deciding to see some ****ty film with Johnny Depp in it, and she sits very close to me the entire time. I end up falling asleep with my head on her and she places her head on mine. After a while, she tries to wake me up by playfully touching my face. After I sleep through most of the movie, she finally succeeds in getting me up by elbowing me, and after this, I place my arm around her and kinda squeeze her a little bit. While she doesn't look bothered at all by this, I figure that if she wanted me to go any further, she'd place her head on my chest or something, so it ends up going nowhere. On the way back to my car from the movies, she tells me she had a lot of fun and that we should definitely hang out more.

What alarmed me some during the conversations we had is that she mentioned how most of her friends are dudes and somewhat adoringly mentioned this 29 year old grad student (she's like 20) a couple times she knows from karate. On top of this, she also mentioned how she'd be staying at a beach house with all her karate friends that weekend. Taken together with her telling me that she can't get drunk b/c she gets really affectionate, it doesn't take much of a leap in logic to conclude from these statements that she was probably trying to **** this grad student while there (it wouldn't blow my mind if she were a virgin, too, because she just gives off this vibe of inexperience big time). I've always heard that chicks don't tell this sort of stuff to guys they're interested in, so this really throws me off.

So, I've come to the conclusion that this chick was completely ****ing with my head during the last time I hung out with her, loved doing it, and doesn't see me as anything more than a platonic friend. This brings us to tomorrow in which I'm supposed to hang out with her again. What do I do? This thing has dragged on WAY longer than I initially wanted it to and I've invested way more feelings and thought into it than I ever could've even conceived I would for a girl I originally found to be sub-par.

Does her behavior during the last time we hung out suggest anything more than a platonic relationship? If not, **** it, I am just going to blow her off tomorrow, as I've spent way too much time on her for a girl that I only am attracted to because she's the only one in my life atm.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Wow bro... um suicide is not the right approach first off, that is weak, very weak. You're a fvcking man so act like one. Suicide was invented by the Chinese and they have little penis, remember that. Dont ever let your mind go there... haha. Okay I see that you are new here so you are suffering from something most of us have suffered from, you are just, um, older than most of us were. So that girl put you in the friendzone, which is fine bc shes ugly I mean chubby anyway, so just accept it. She probably has some hot friends and she said most of her friends are guys so you could make friends with them. Its a win win for you bro. So forget about anything more than friends with her. Next step is to READ THE BOOK OF POOK! AND THE DJ BIBLE! The Book of Pook will change your perspective on life, trust me. After you have read those two books, READ THEM AGAIN! Trust me you want to take in everything you can from these books...

Austin
 

hansol

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Wow dude, you need to put some positive spin on things. Glass is half full kind of stuff.

You're a college grad man! That's sweet, and a great accomplishment. Congrats. You've also landed a wicked job in tough times. Even better. On top of that you're making good coin, so you've got everything you need! You're successful, making money, and have your s h i t together. Life is good man. Now book a trip to Hawaii and live it up.

So who cares, a fat girl shot you down. Everyone knows fat chicks are insane anyways. That's par for the course. I mean if you can't respect yourself (which fat girls don't, if they did, they would do a few sit-ups), it can't be assumed that they will respect anyone else either. Fatties have an axe to grind, so stay away.

On top of that, you don't need this girl anyway, remember? You've got your
s h i t together, you're a catch. Now go chase the girls that a guy of your caliber deserves, and don't settle for scraps. And while you're at it go do some cool **** with some of that money you're making. Climb a mountain, go surf, conquer a nation, see how fast your car can do the quarter-mile in.

Start LIVING, and everything will fall into place. That's my take on it. Change your perspective and you'll get 'er sorted out. Sounds like you have everything you need to do well, now go take what's yours.
 

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Dude.

You should've taken the initiative to kiss her to determine whether she's really "INTO" you, whether as a quick fling or casual FB. She's certainly not looking for a relationship with you.

Nonetheless, let go off this chick. There are an ocean of fine women out there that will suit you better.
 

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Hmmm, so should I even bother hanging out with her tonight? I could easily get into the same situation again and determine if she wants to be a casual FB or whatever. All I wanted initially with this chick was to just swipe the v-card with a girl I don't care about (well, that's not really the case anymore, but regardless, it still does seem like she might be looking for an FB and that's all I want).
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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blueline

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OK, so fuck this chick and her shenanigans. I told her I wouldn't be able to make it until after 6 today due to work and she gives me this bullshit line of, "aww, my professor just emailed me a big assignment and it's due soon, so i probably shouldnt hang out tonight. let's try next week if there's anything at all cool to do lol." Correct me if I'm wrong, but what that last sentence means is that she's not going to call me yet she's phrasing it in a way that would make you think she might if you weren't onto her games.

So, what have I learned from this that I didn't already know before? I think the big thing to take away from this is that attention starved girls will send very ambiguous signals and use a sort of bait-and-switch tactic in the way they talk to you to keep you close enough to give them the attention they so desire. They'll only hang out with you on their terms when they're feeling particularly attention starved, but otherwise will make bull**** excuses whenever you ask them to go out somewhere.

I am kicking myself in the balls for not pursuing the girl (she was pretty fit, too!) that did show some direct interest w/o any games during my last semester of uni. Unfortunately, I never got her number or name because her indication of interest was through her friend telling me that she thinks I'm sorta cute. There are literally no women under 35 at my work, so my only option now is random bars and parties with the friends I've made at work. Unfortunately, I literally have no idea what I'm doing at those kinds of things and it's going to initially be a lot harder than talking up girls from my university classes. Good thing I'm posting here, I guess?

This was my first and last experience with a girl I'm not really initially attracted to. Failing with subpar girls is actually much worse than blowing it with girls you're actually initially attracted to. In addition, I don't think I should ever again spend so much time pursuing a girl that sends ambiguous signals.
 

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I just got a date with this gorgeous girl that I've been crushing on since like high school, but have been too much of a ***** to ask out up until an hour ago when I just randomly ran into her at a party and really hit it off. She seems pretty into me, too, because I didn't even ask her for her number, she just gave it to me as soon as I said I had to take off from the party.

I guess I won't be thinking about the fat chick too much now, LOL.
 
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