"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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this forum has devolved into theory crafting and trolling

cfdagola

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I was coming back here back in 08 and this board you could seriously pick any thread and get some helpful advice. but now the entire premise of this website has devolved into theory crafting and trolling.

the theory crafters sit on the forum all day and post their reflections unto the world on how men are losing their grips and women control the dating game. questions of why you must do this and not do that. or what if situations that will never arise.

then of course there's the frequent influx of trolls. their post are obvious they state something obviously counter to what they are asking for. For instance somebody will say they are handsom and muscular and have no fear of approaching but say they they shouldn't have to approach and how do they get women to flock to them like seagulls to bread crumbs.

or how to steal a girl away from her boyfriend on the park bench WHILE they are kissing.

just looking at the first page of this forum you can see the post which get attention and hardly any of them are the post where somebody actually needs advice. those threads bounce off the front page and in their place is a bunch of crap. like when a girl glances at me twice and then licks her lips in a counter clockwise rotation what does that mean.

this site still has its benefits because there are a few here who know what they're talking about. and if you REALLY comb through this site and pull up dead threads from years ago you can find what you're looking for.

but lets state the obvious

there's hardly anymore field reports
and nobody really cares about journals anymore either.

just sucks that this seduction community is really nothing more than the equivalence of internet spam these days.

i suppose though you can keep responding and pulling out a troll thread to 6+ pages on how to covertly whip out your **** in public without anybody noticing because you want to show confidence.

but how does this help anybody who actually needs advice.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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JohnChops

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i agree the troll problem is insane here, but the mods have busy lives too so its whatever best to ignore them. I still see good threads on here that are helpful, i say stop complaining and just dont worry.
 

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No one said this is the be-all-end-all for getting perfect and absolute girl advice. It is what is is and I enjoy reading everyone's posts. The occasional troll is like a funny commercial during a movie.

@Scott: The "I raped a girl, where to put her body now?" thread was insane with hilarious replies. All in good fun, lighten up, OP.
 

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@vlad

i agree that this site is still useful i was just pointing out that its not as useful as it once was. nothing really in the world has changed. Men are men and women are women.

but nobody wants to give legit advice to anybody seeking the help anymore they would much rather ponder the world on what if's and how to slap a girl properly without getting the cops called on them.
 

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in reality 99.5% of the posts on this site are not necessary.

I got a guy friend, he's 24. he asked a girl at his job out last week. she said yes and seemed to kinda like him. he scheduled a date for this past wednesday. in the meantime he is on the text game **** the entire time, and they are talking about each others baggage and **** just basically every ****ing thing you could not do right he did.

so by the time the date day comes and he's talked to her for 5 freaking days they go on the date he thinks he has a new GF and she is really cold and now she is avoiding him and he can't realize why. when i told him saturday to cool it down the phone is to get her together eh told me "that must be a black thing (i'm black) that's not how I roll I do things differently".. lol i see. now he has no clue what went wrong.


really, all you need to know is to not do that ****. You can sum up the entire site with, don't be pathetic, have a life, action dates, make her earn your respect and love don't dish it out freely also learn how to dress and get in shape will take you a long way as well. The rest of this is really window dressing.

in other words, if the guy would have come to me and told me to help him get laid, i could have done so in 2 mintues, and done so perfectly.

I'm not saying guys don't need guidance, I'm saying this is overkill
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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cfdagola said:
but how does this help anybody who actually needs advice.

The good threads are archived in the DJ Bible. If people want other advice aside from the plethora of knowledge they have been given, they can look into it in the Don Juan Tips section.


This is the Don Juan Discussion section of the forum, which is for discussion about "Don Juan" things. If you don't like what the current wave of people is talking about, bring up something more interesting or just close the tab and continue Don Juaning about.
 

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backbreaker said:
"that must be a black thing (i'm black) that's not how I roll I do things differently"
He really said that?
It's no wonder he has no clue about women. He still thinks color of your skin dictates how you think.
 

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OP you hit the nail on the head. Fact is, this site, as with most, only cares about pageviews. Trolls are good at generating those. Troll topics stir people up to create replies, and those replies generate even more pageviews.

It's like those awful spam adverts you get in the mail. Everyone hates them but the post office makes a ton of money from them. So they're not going to get rid of them.

Trolls pay the bills around here.
 

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I've been around here since '06, but I just don't care about the trolls. It would only bother me if I had no way to avoid them. But I can. So why let it bother you?

I've rarely posted stuff here because it's not a priority and most days I'm just too busy. Recently I've started being more active here, because now I visit this site from my iPhone whenever I'm travelling or waiting for someone. But never from home or when I'm working. In fact, I hate it when people don't take things seriously and keep themselves distracted from what they're supposed to be doing. LOL, especially at the gym these days.
 
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Zarky said:
OP you hit the nail on the head. Fact is, this site, as with most, only cares about pageviews. Trolls are good at generating those. Troll topics stir people up to create replies, and those replies generate even more pageviews.

It's like those awful spam adverts you get in the mail. Everyone hates them but the post office makes a ton of money from them. So they're not going to get rid of them.

Trolls pay the bills around here.
Tell me about it.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Yeah, it's funny because I use to think that these dudes were asking obvious questions so it has to be trolls or they are 100 percent afc.

I agree also the mods should clean up a lot of these threads
 
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Yeah, it's funny because I use to think that these dudes were asking obvious questions so it has to be trolls or they are 100 percent afc.

I agree also the mods should clean up a lot of these threads
They could do no better than banning your account.
 

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op doesnt post for years, complains about lack of field reports and journals, doesnt post lay reports or journal. complains profusely about worthless posts, basically OP offers nothing in his post
 
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