This forum can ruin you..that nagging in the back of your mind

[women haze]

Yes, that is correct...This forum can and will ruin you. Everytime I talk to females I find that nagging voice in the back of my head that always wonders....

Am I saying the RIGHT things?.....Does she like me for me, am I doing something wrong? What would Igetit! Say in response to this text....
I like this girl, I don't want to screw this up...Should I C/F her, neg her?

I am hanging with this really cool girl for New Years and I am nervous. YES you heard that correctly I am nervous I do not want to screw this up saying teh wrong things, following the DJ bible and in the process losing myself. I am shedding away the AFC, but also in the process of that I catch every theing i say as Wow I went too far with that. Can't show that I care..

I can't BLOW this by being AFC....In turn it's driving me crazy!!!!

i'm sorry I'm just ranting, but guys seriously step away from the forums...too much of this unplugging of the matrix will twist you, it will CONSUME you......I hope i don't blow this with her this weekend...

 

[terran2k]

that's because you're treating that girl like some valuable prize that you can lose. She's not better than you, let her worry about losing you instead.

 

[women haze]

Damn I am tripping man I needed to hear that......thanks

 

[JustLurk]

Relax, lol. I see that here, those topics that worry about whether this was afk or how to respond to this?? topics.. But sometimes those very topics are afc.

 

[st_99]

that's because you're treating that girl like some valuable prize that you can lose.

^^^^^^^^^
this is your foundation


everything else you pick up on this site is icing.

 

[BigJimbo]

that's because you're treating that girl like some valuable prize that you can lose. She's not better than you, let her worry about losing you instead.

Actually she is. Much like all the articles I have posted on how the numbers game is against girls from places like Ukraine and Latvia. They can't win. The guys are drunk, die in their teens from driving, are abusive, or have little money. In America it is the opposite. TONS of decent guys who worship females, have spending money, and don't beat their broads.

Hate me if you want, but you wouldn't feel this if you were in certain parts of the world. Look around in America. Look at all the average guys with fat females who are their age or older! You NEVER see that in certain parts of the world. You see the 60 year old Turk with his teenage girlfriend is what you see.

 

[omkara]

I've done worse with women since I came to the seduction community 3 years ago. I am a lot more suspicious, have less respect for women and it's harder to form a connection with a girl. I could have hung out with a lot more girls with afc tactics. It's still useful information I think if you can get it right. I suppose eventually I'll be better off than I was before.

 

[Alle_Gory]

I've done worse with women since I came to the seduction community 3 years ago. I am a lot more suspicious, have less respect for women and it's harder to form a connection with a girl. I could have hung out with a lot more girls with afc tactics. It's still useful information I think if you can get it right. I suppose eventually I'll be better off than I was before.

We all go full circle eventually. At first I was a "nice guy". Then I became angry and bitter, then just cynical, now I'm trying to be nice again.... the right way this time.

Just have to take the high road and not give into the negativity I guess. Easier said than done, took me awhile.

 

[Igetit!]

Yes, that is correct...This forum can and will ruin you. Everytime I talk to females I find that nagging voice in the back of my head that always wonders....

Am I saying the RIGHT things?.....Does she like me for me, am I doing something wrong? What would Igetit! Say in response to this text....
I like this girl, I don't want to screw this up...Should I C/F her, neg her?

Yeah,I "get" what you what you're saying here.


Last night I went to an NBA game for the first time ever. There were attractive women EVERYWHERE. I saw all those women there,and you know what came to my mind? THIS forum.




So yeah,I get what you mean,but I wouldn't go as far as saying Sosuave can ruin someone. To me,this forum is like fire or water. Yeah,fire can burn you and be destructive,but it can also keep you warm and be a light in darkness.



Water can drown one man,but be the gift of life another man who has just spent hours stranded in the desert under the scorching sun.


I don't think it's the forum itself that's hurtful,but how we use (or misuse) it.

I am hanging with this really cool girl for New Years and I am nervous. YES you heard that correctly I am nervous I do not want to screw this up saying teh wrong things, following the DJ bible and in the process losing myself. I am shedding away the AFC, but also in the process of that I catch every theing i say as Wow I went too far with that. Can't show that I care..

I can't BLOW this by being AFC....In turn it's driving me crazy!!!!

Chill out dude. Chill,chill,chillllllll........

Take a deep breath.......and chilllllll.



It's a girl man. It's not like you're defusing a bomb and HAVE TO get this right or it'll explode and kill you,lol. It's just a chick.

I got something that'll get you to calm down........



You know how I'm ALWAYS SAYING that women are EMOTIONAL?


Well it's true. Women are emotional,meaning that they're sensitive to emotion. So if you're nervous,if you're scared,if you're about to wet your pants out of FEAR of possibly doing or saying something wrong,YOUR FEAR will turn her off.






It's not saying something wrong that's the problem,it's THE FEAR of saying something wrong. If you don't chill out,you won't have to do or say anything wrong to mess things up,your FEAR will do it for you.



When she sees how nervous,frightened,and uncomfortable you are,your uncomfortableness will infect her,then she'll FEEL uncomfortable........EVEN IF you technically don't do anything "wrong".




Women are EMOTIONAL. It's better for you to be cool,calm,relaxed,and SAY SOMETHING WRONG,than to be nervous,scared,shaking and twitching,and say everything "right". Women go more by how they FEEL around us more than by what we SAY.



So calm down man. You'll be ok.

 

[runner83]

Yeah,I "get" what you what you're saying here.


Last night I went to an NBA game for the first time ever. There were attractive women EVERYWHERE. I saw all those women there,and you know what came to my mind? THIS forum.




So yeah,I get what you mean,but I wouldn't go as far as saying Sosuave can ruin someone. To me,this forum is like fire or water. Yeah,fire can burn you and be destructive,but it can also keep you warm and be a light in darkness.



Water can drown one man,but be the gift of life another man who has just spent hours stranded in the desert under the scorching sun.


I don't think it's the forum itself that's hurtful,but how we use (or misuse) it.









Chill out dude. Chill,chill,chillllllll........

Take a deep breath.......and chilllllll.



It's a girl man. It's not like you're defusing a bomb and HAVE TO get this right or it'll explode and kill you,lol. It's just a chick.

I got something that'll get you to calm down........



You know how I'm ALWAYS SAYING that women are EMOTIONAL?


Well it's true. Women are emotional,meaning that they're sensitive to emotion. So if you're nervous,if you're scared,if you're about to wet your pants out of FEAR of possibly doing or saying something wrong,YOUR FEAR will turn her off.






It's not saying something wrong that's the problem,it's THE FEAR of saying something wrong. If you don't chill out,you won't have to do or say anything wrong to mess things up,your FEAR will do it for you.



When she sees how nervous,frightened,and uncomfortable you are,your uncomfortableness will infect her,then she'll FEEL uncomfortable........EVEN IF you technically don't do anything "wrong".




Women are EMOTIONAL. It's better for you to be cool,calm,relaxed,and SAY SOMETHING WRONG,than to be nervous,scared,shaking and twitching,and say everything "right". Women go more by how they FEEL around us more than by what we SAY.



So calm down man. You'll be ok.

Great advice above.

Use the forum for what it's worth but don't spend all day here reading stuff or over-analysing.

Focus on how you feel rather than the words to say. Heck, if you are in the right frame of mind (e.g. relaxed, leading, not looking for approval) and transmit that to her, you can just about say anything and it works out okay.

But if you are in the wrong frame of mind (i.e. nervous, following her, caring what she thinks), and she picks up on that, what you say won't matter, since you'll be shot down in flames.

 

[zekko]

Can't show that I care..

I think a problem with the community is that it gives this impression that you can't show that you care about a girl. The emphasis is on negging, indifference, and outcome independence. There are good reasons for all of those concepts, but I think this does a genuine disservice to a lot of guys because it gives the wrong impression.

I don't think you will ever get too far with women if you are genuinely never affectionate with them.
They teach you to stir emotions in the girl, but usually all they talk about are stirring negative emotions - jealousy, anger, frustration, indignation, etc. I don't know why, but they leave out all the positive emotions you can create. I've been told this is because most guys take the positivie stuff too far and start acting AFC with it.

I am a lot more suspicious, have less respect for women and it's harder to form a connection with a girl. I could have hung out with a lot more girls with afc tactics

Case in point. I think you will get further using AFC tactics than by being a cold fish.

 

[DonJuan11]

I've done worse with women since I came to the seduction community 3 years ago. I am a lot more suspicious, have less respect for women and it's harder to form a connection with a girl. I could have hung out with a lot more girls with afc tactics.

That's because you don't have confidence bro, you are worried about what others think of you and are unfocused in your direction in life. If you were a NHL player who was on top of his game, would you care or have time to read what some guys in a "seduction community" said? If you were a major developer in New York building skyscrapers and making deals with the Middle East, would you have time to even think about any suspicions when it comes to women?

This seduction community is a GUIDE, a COACH that points you in the right direction. But like anything else in life, the fire and passion to succeed has to come from within. Once you have that, you won't care if the girl doesn't call back or sleeps with a 6'2 Brad Pitt lookalike, you will be too FOCUSED on your direction.