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This dude "upgrades" his fiancee's engagement ring from a 4.0 carat ring to 5.6 carat ring. Unreal

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I don't think 4 to 5.6 wouldn't be as big of an upgrade but what do I know? Maybe visually not but it could be used for bragging rights?

Unfortunately my dad was a chump like this but maybe a little more justified as I remember my mom getting an upgraded ring for their 20th(?) anniversary. But I think it all started from my mom asking for it after her friends got upgraded.

I can definitely say though my dad has turned into mostly a docile beta over the years. I've noticed this in any guys 60+ yo that is still married unfortunately.
 

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I don't think 4 to 5.6 wouldn't be as big of an upgrade but what do I know? Maybe visually not but it could be used for bragging rights?

Unfortunately my dad was a chump like this but maybe a little more justified as I remember my mom getting an upgraded ring for their 20th(?) anniversary. But I think it all started from my mom asking for it after her friends got upgraded.

I can definitely say though my dad has turned into mostly a docile beta over the years. I've noticed this in any guys 60+ yo that is still married unfortunately.
Here's the list from where this male (not even a dude) bought an engagement ring; and she's not even a wife yet. They seem pretty expensive; five or six figures.

Women's Engagement Rings 2020: Diamond, Rose Gold & More Proposal Rings | REEDS Jewelers
 

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Here's the list from where this male (not even a dude) bought an engagement ring; and she's not even a wife yet. They seem pretty expensive; five or six figures.

Women's Engagement Rings 2020: Diamond, Rose Gold & More Proposal Rings | REEDS Jewelers
That's pathetic. I hope he learns his lesson and she breaks up with him before the wedding. She'd be doing him a favor.

To me anyone can buy an expensive ring to buy "her love".

I think it would mean more if you put your own blood, sweat, tears into making one for her. It would be cheaper but also represent more in terms of sentimental value. Plus it would shyt test your fiancee whether she's looking at it from the sentimental aspect or more for the bling aspect and trying to brag/impress others.

 

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That's pathetic. I hope he learns his lesson and she breaks up with him before the wedding. She'd be doing him a favor.

To me anyone can buy an expensive ring to buy "her love".

I think it would mean more if you put your own blood, sweat, tears into making one for her. It would be cheaper but also represent more in terms of sentimental value. Plus it would shyt test your fiancee whether she's looking at it from the sentimental aspect or more for the bling aspect and trying to brag/impress others.

this reminds me of the Reardon bracelet from that Ayn Rand book
 

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Perhaps some men actually get off on the whole process, of providing such extravagance for their women

In this case, maybe these two then are actually a match for each other?
Exactly, post WW2, the diamond/jewelry industry has done an excellent advertising job of convincing men that diamonds equal love, and the larger diamond equals more love…

Agreed. In this case it’s probably an ostentatious display of love/wealth by both buying into and using the above mindset to benefit their pride …
 

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WTF??? Some of these dudes might be trying to marry up a few points above them and might be desperate thirsty simps.

Another poster in the same thread financed a ring for his fiancee. Not to sound mean or anything but to me there is soooo much wrong with this pic. Call me pessimistic but if this guy ever lost his job, he's done.

 

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WTF??? Some of these dudes might be trying to marry up a few points above them and might be desperate thirsty simps.

Another poster in the same thread financed a ring for his fiancee. Not to sound mean or anything but to me there is soooo much wrong with this pic. Call me pessimistic but if this guy ever lost his job, he's done.

She doesn't deserve a ring, he should get her a nutritionist and personal trainer. Her fingers are so fat that the ring gets lost on the hand. So sad and pathetic at the same time.
 

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She doesn't deserve a ring, he should get her a nutritionist and personal trainer. Her fingers are so fat that the ring gets lost on the hand. So sad and pathetic at the same time.
In addition, her nails and rainbow shirt possibly indication of LGBTQ and liberal leftist feminist that could be an opportunistic. I could be totally wrong but who knows?
 

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The man seems to repeatedly be bragging about the size of the upgraded stone, the security required for it, it’s cost and ultimately spending so much on his wife, going so far as to even post a video of her with the ring on.

Perhaps some men actually get off on the whole process, of providing such extravagance for their women, as much as the woman seems to get off in wearing it?

Clearly not for everyone. Understandably so.

In this case, maybe these two then are actually a match for each other?
you make a good point about the guy feeling more powerful about being able to lavish things on his women.
6 figure income construction guys are like this---its a quirk that doesn't seem to fit their alphaness unless you consider maybe they feel the buzz because they're AMOGing to the rest of the crew.
They usually refer to their woman as "baby girl" and terms like that, when you overhear their phone conversations in the lunchshack.
 

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In addition, her nails and rainbow shirt possibly indication of LGBTQ and liberal leftist feminist that could be an opportunistic. I could be totally wrong but who knows?
IDK. These people spending all this $$$ on carbon is insane. I do not recall ever spending this type of dough on my ex-wife. Crazy stuff going around.
 

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She doesn't deserve a ring, he should get her a nutritionist and personal trainer. Her fingers are so fat that the ring gets lost on the hand. So sad and pathetic at the same time.
lol exactly what i was thinking too. She's a fat whale. Best gift would be to give her a personal trainer to get into shape or just a gym card.
 

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IDK. These people spending all this $$$ on carbon is insane. I do not recall ever spending this type of dough on my ex-wife. Crazy stuff going around.
It's not just the ring but once they get married, she'll get HALF of all his stuff. The expensive ring is just the beginning... If a gal can persuade a schmuck to upgrade her ring even before she's proven herself to him to be a good wife in a marriage, imagine what other stuff she can pull once they do get married.

Maybe we'll see either of these guys on SS in a year or two... LOL
 

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someone need to explain to him when we say upgrade wife, IS NOT HER jewels
 

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you make a good point about the guy feeling more powerful about being able to lavish things on his women.
6 figure income construction guys are like this---its a quirk that doesn't seem to fit their alphaness unless you consider maybe they feel the buzz because they're AMOGing to the rest of the crew.
They usually refer to their woman as "baby girl" and terms like that, when you overhear their phone conversations in the lunchshack.
one of the things is the guy wants to announce his presence. if the girl is wearing a 2+ carat that is above the common man budget. it is announcing the presence of money/power; telling others not to try. yes, the guy does not get it... even the alpha-looking contractor. often it is only effective to keep simps off, experienced men might take it as a sign that they probably can get to her.

a girl is announcing the money/power of the man AND that she is in control of it to other women. she might behave well for some time because of this.

exceptions
- 2+ carat when the man is worth 20m plus. the ring is only a small amount to him.
- 1/2 + carat on 60th wedding anniversary.
 

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one of the things is the guy wants to announce his presence. if the girl is wearing a 2+ carat that is above the common man budget. it is announcing the presence of money/power; telling others not to try. yes, the guy does not get it... even the alpha-looking contractor. often it is only effective to keep simps off, experienced men might take it as a sign that they probably can get to her.

a girl is announcing the money/power of the man AND that she is in control of it to other women. she might behave well for some time because of this.

exceptions
- 2+ carat when the man is worth 20m plus. the ring is only a small amount to him.
- 1/2 + carat on 60th wedding anniversary.
huh, I never thought of some of these things. 1. that he is telling others not to try and 2. that she is in control of his money(but not really, unless its some rare heavily publicized gem Hope, Black Star (sapphire)....I forget some other names or names of famous old dynasty diamonds...how does it represent big money that she's socially in control of?)

Hey, I remember you sharing a post about the futility and trickery of DeBeer's campaign to convince people an engagement ring should be a diamond. Let me find it.

 
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huh, I never thought of some of these things. 1. that he is telling others not to try and 2. that she is in control of his money(but not really, unless its some rare heavily publicized gem Hope, Black Star (sapphire)....I forget some other names or names of famous old dynasty diamonds...how does it represent big money that she's socially in control of?)

Hey, I remember you sharing a post about the futility and trickery of DeBeer's campaign to convince people an engagement ring should be a diamond. Let me find it.
if the guy will spend 3+ months salary on a ring when he is not already living on passive income it tells that the girl has some control of him and his money by proxy.

not big money, but him and his money. locked down.

in reality, diamonds are only good for making tools that cut things.
 

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if the guy will spend 3+ months salary on a ring when he is not already living on passive income it tells that the girl has some control of him and his money by proxy.

not big money, but him and his money. locked down.

in reality, diamonds are only good for making tools that cut things.
Yes.

Its concerning when a man goes into debt to pay for such a purchase.
Does she not realise it just adds to the burden of the marital household budget now?
She could be encouraging him to buy gold buillion for cash to put in a hidden safe.
But women need to show off, now don't they? They want the showy rings and wedding and won't show off the marriage itself by being a good, upstanding woman.(hopefully this changes)
Youtuber Dr. BoA put out a good video a couple hours ago on the wedding and leadup to marriage versus the marriage itself.
 

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It's not just the ring but once they get married, she'll get HALF of all his stuff. The expensive ring is just the beginning... If a gal can persuade a schmuck to upgrade her ring even before she's proven herself to him to be a good wife in a marriage, imagine what other stuff she can pull once they do get married.

Maybe we'll see either of these guys on SS in a year or two... LOL
I tired to post there and recommend him to come here for some help. The post was removed and I was banned pretty fast. Oh well. 100k for a ring. You can place that as a down payment on a home. Guess it doesn't matter.. She'll get it one way or another.
 

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lol exactly what i was thinking too. She's a fat whale. Best gift would be to give her a personal trainer to get into shape or just a gym card.
If the person will not get and stay in shape with you prior to living together or dare I say marriage, she'll blow up after the kid or kids and she'd be like shelby the whale. Need to train them prior to anything serious like that or leave. If they want that and you enough, they will get their stuff in order. Then, after kids, it will not be as difficult to shed the baby weight. Nothing wrong with baby weight; as long as it's gone in a reasonable amount of time. The caveat is that the dude has to be in shape as well. It's only fair.
 

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