"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

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Thirty somethings and unprotected sex

Frosty

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Been a long time since I have visited this place. It was going down the tubes as I understood several years ago and a lot of us jumped ship. Not sure where it stands now but figured I'd give it a shot since I am in a dilemma that I can't figure out how to handle considering the possible consequences.


To make this short and sweet as possible I will just say that I have been messing around with this chic for about a month now. I am in my late 30s and she is is 30. We had sex a few times but I must admit that we really don't know each other real well because most of our conversations are pretty superficial and I prefer to keep it that way for a while. The first time we had sex she really was the one all over me. I was dropping her off at home and kissing her goodnight and the next thing I knew she was damn near raping me. It has been like this pretty much every since we first hooked up and we had done it about five times now. Every session went down at her place. The great thing about it is that she was really taking charge almost every time and leading me to her bedroom. I didn't have to do much at all. She would always pull out a condom from her nightstand and even put in on for me. No doubt that she was prepared to screw some dudes.

The last time we hooked up was a few days ago. I led her to her own bedroom that time and we started with the foreplay. One thing led to another and the next thing I know, I am inside of her without a condom. I was so fired up that I kept going. The sex was great as always. She wanted me to spend the night once we finished but I decided to leave but she thanked me for coming to see her.

Now, I can tell that things seem a bit awkward between us and I feel awkward because I screwed up by not being careful and using a condom. I don't know what in the hell I was thinking but it is definitely not something I usually do. I especially feel sick about it because I let her be more careful than me. She was good about it and I wasn't. Like I said, we really don't know each other that well.

I am supposed to pick her up tomorrow and I am not sure how to rectify this. I have negative STD/AIDs tests results from a month ago and I am not sure if I should just show it to her when I pick her up or just act like it didn't happen. I don't want her to think I just go around not using protection. I really don't care about her results since I can just get tested again easily multiple times and can know from there and just make sure I always use condoms. If I act like nothing happened, she will think I just casually use unprotected sex but if I do bring it up then the mood loses it superficial tone to a more serious and possibly awkward one. I do want to just go back to using condoms with her since I do have sex with other women but I use protection with them. I usually only have unprotected sex in a committed relationship where we both know each other status so I am not used to a situation like this. I just got caught up.
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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tihash

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Dude, your commitment to your health is commendable. However, rest assured, millions of people are raw dogging it as we speak. You don't have HIV.

HIV is nothing to be concerned about in the least. It is almost impossible for a man to get HIV from vaginal sex.

If you think she is only doing you, then have the STD talk and keep hitting that raw dog.
 

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Frosty said:
If I act like nothing happened, she will think I just casually use unprotected sex but if I do bring it up then the mood loses it superficial tone to a more serious and possibly awkward one.
If you have sex a half dozen times with a woman with sky high IL like this one, and she 'lets' you bang her bareback then she is already "serious" about you.
Women generally do not act like she is acting unless they have an expectation of things to come and that means you can look forward to "the talk" soon.
You might want to keep this situation light and breezy but get ready for her expectations of exclusivity or commitment to reveal themselves.

Whether you discuss the bareback incident or not is entirely your choice, but if it bothered her, she would have resisted at the time and asked you to wear the raincoat.

Sounds to me like you are headed for a "relationship"..;)
 

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And I suggest you start bringing your own condoms... and disposing of them.
 

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Just carry a condom in your wallet, you always have your wallet on you...
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Frosty said:
The last time we hooked up was a few days ago. I led her to her own bedroom that time and we started with the foreplay. One thing led to another and the next thing I know, I am inside of her without a condom. I was so fired up that I kept going. The sex was great as always. She wanted me to spend the night once we finished but I decided to leave but she thanked me for coming to see her.
Careful, something to keep in mind; this chick is 30. That is THE age when their biological alarm clock seems to scream into their brain "my baby factory is starting to wear out, I better find a sp*rm donor/daddy fast".

The condoms she has in her nightstand are a smoke screen to make it look like she had nothing to do with getting pregnant (if it happens and it surely is possible). She knows the 'heat of the moment' routine is highly likely if she can press a mans sexual buttons the right way.

If your not looking to marry this woman and settle down and be a dad to kids then ALWAY ALWAYS ALWAYS the-cvm-goes-in-the-condom. Even when it comes to oral svx, you enjoy it but don't rely on her ingesting all of it. You stop and slip on a raincoat and cvm inside her with the condom on then dispose of the condom yourself. You don't want an 18 year ball and chain around your ankle.

It's an indelicate subject to discuss but still.
 

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Listen to what Franky Four Fingers is saying.

You said she is 30 which is why she was more than receptive to doing it without.

Personally, I would just use condoms from now on. I wouldn't even bring up the subject. Trust me, she'll ASK you why you are using condoms now rather than that one time and then you two can talk about it.

But you're in your thirties and her window of opportunity is ALMOST over to snag a providing man.

And I'll be honest, things are awkward between the two of you because YOU feel awkward about it. I can almost guarantee that she's barely thought about it in a negative light. I'm pretty sure she might be hoping it happens again.

Be careful, and be safe.
 

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Franky Four Fingers said:
Even when it comes to oral svx, you enjoy it but don't rely on her ingesting all of it. You stop and slip on a raincoat and cvm inside her with the condom on then dispose of the condom yourself. You don't want an 18 year ball and chain around your ankle.

It's an indelicate subject to discuss but still.
Are you kidding me? You tell a chick before you cvm from a BJ to hang on, then you put on a condom, then you have her get back to blowing you then you cvm in the condom?????????????????? :eek:
 

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Bring your own condoms next time. You don't know what kind of crazy she is beneath the surface, poking holes in the condom or something. And i would go on like nothing different happened. Kailex is right, its weird because you made it weird. If you move on, she will too. If it really is an issue, let her bring it up.
 
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Are you kidding me? You tell a chick before you cvm from a BJ to hang on, then you put on a condom, then you have her get back to blowing you then you cvm in the condom?????????????????? :eek:
No not like that. You enjoy the blow jvb for what it's worth then you tell her you want to continue with sex with intercourse and you put on a condom. You don't actually say it like that openly you do it naturally discreetly.

We all know how stable women are emotionally compared to men right?

I've had a woman pull this type of situation before (blow jvb then jokingly, without saying a word for obvious reasons, excuses herself to the bathroom right after clim@x + oops sometime after that says I don't know why but I think I'm pregnant). It didn't pan out but it scared the living shvt out of me for months. What an education let me tell you.

It's been a while but I've read in the past in various places/stories around the net which confirms my experience (nightmare?) I went through that some segment of women will do things like the above.

It's even been related through other peoples experiences that the woman you have just had sex with will find the used condom (if you haven't flushed it properly in the bathroom, maybe it's on the floor of the bedroom etc) when daddy-to-be is sleeping then take the spverm and stick it where it doesn't belong.

Sick? Yeap. Evil? Yeap.

Women are the more cunning of our species.

You don't want to be in these situations trust me.

The-cvm-goes-in-the-condom no matter what unless you are planning to marry this woman and are planning to have kids by choice.

If she doesn't like it because she's a cvm swallower lover? Tough! You walk. Next.

No woman on this planet can be trusted 100%. 99% ? Sure 1 in a million for that, but still not 100%. Harsh reality.

Cover your a*ses and dvcks for that matter.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Frosty said:
I am supposed to pick her up tomorrow and I am not sure how to rectify this. I have negative STD/AIDs tests results from a month ago and I am not sure if I should just show it to her when I pick her up or just act like it didn't happen. I don't want her to think I just go around not using protection. I really don't care about her results since I can just get tested again easily multiple times and can know from there and just make sure I always use condoms. If I act like nothing happened, she will think I just casually use unprotected sex but if I do bring it up then the mood loses it superficial tone to a more serious and possibly awkward one. I do want to just go back to using condoms with her since I do have sex with other women but I use protection with them. I usually only have unprotected sex in a committed relationship where we both know each other status so I am not used to a situation like this. I just got caught up.

I wouldn't bother explaining it or talking about it. S*** happens.

And although nothing is impossible, I highly doubt you have to worry about an STD. It CAN happen from a one time encounter, but those are usually pretty low-risk.

Of course just wrap it up in the future.
 

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Franky Four Fingers said:
No not like that. You enjoy the blow jvb for what it's worth then you tell her you want to continue with sex with intercourse and you put on a condom. You don't actually say it like that openly you do it naturally discreetly.

We all know how stable women are emotionally compared to men right?

I've had a woman pull this type of situation before (blow jvb then jokingly, without saying a word for obvious reasons, excuses herself to the bathroom right after clim@x + oops sometime after that says I don't know why but I think I'm pregnant). It didn't pan out but it scared the living shvt out of me for months. What an education let me tell you.

It's been a while but I've read in the past in various places/stories around the net which confirms my experience (nightmare?) I went through that some segment of women will do things like the above.

It's even been related through other peoples experiences that the woman you have just had sex with will find the used condom (if you haven't flushed it properly in the bathroom, maybe it's on the floor of the bedroom etc) when daddy-to-be is sleeping then take the spverm and stick it where it doesn't belong.

Sick? Yeap. Evil? Yeap.

Women are the more cunning of our species.

You don't want to be in these situations trust me.

The-cvm-goes-in-the-condom no matter what unless you are planning to marry this woman and are planning to have kids by choice.

If she doesn't like it because she's a cvm swallower lover? Tough! You walk. Next.

No woman on this planet can be trusted 100%. 99% ? Sure 1 in a million for that, but still not 100%. Harsh reality.

Cover your a*ses and dvcks for that matter.
this man speaks the truth.
 

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Why was this post moved? I posted in that Mature Men section? One of the problems when I used to come here in the past was that there were teenagers trying to give advice to 40 and 50 year-olds. I thought it was promising that they have a section for older men now but if even posts there gets moved then what's the point of that forum. Seems like over-moderation.

Whatever


I went out with the chic tonight and I can tell things were in fact different. It's cool because I know I screwed up and expected it. For one, she was preoccupied with her cellphone for the first half of the night. I never ever saw her phone in the past when we were out but she kept texting and even excused herself once so she could "call her child" because she said she wanted her daughter to call her when she made it to her babysitter's house. I didn't sweat it. Also she would usually always would respond with a laugh or a comeback whenever I busted on her but now she just smiles.

When we initially set up the date she told me she had to be back by 10:30 because her babysitter would no longer be able to watch her daughter after that time. She would usually pick her up from wherever after whatever time I left her place.

I wasn't going to push things because I know it would result only in a pull from her end so after we finished the event we were at which was only about one hour long, I started driving her back home. On the way back she asked me did I want to stop and get something to drink because she didn't have to pick her daughter up for another hour and a half. She doesn't even drink but I figured it could be a few reasons why she wanted to hang out longer which I won't go into at this time but could be trying to kill time or simply hang out longer. I will touch on that a bit in a second.

We went out to a sports bar and talked for about another hour. The conversation was cool as usual but once it got close to 10:30, I reminded her that it was time to take her home. I didn't want to drag the night on with a time limit.

I drove her home and she told me that she had a great time, kissed me briefly, and told me that I was welcome to come up but she would have to leave shortly. I declined and kissed her back and said goodbye.

Thing has definitely change. There is no question in my mind about that.
I just deal with the consequences of my screw ups. She was a good piece but having cushion to always fall back on always help. This is one of the reasons I think I will always have multiple chics in my life. This just reinforces my rule to always were protection.

I do keep a rubber in my wallet and in my car but just didn't grab one in the heat of the moment. I want to impress on the guys who do not believe that you can easily catch HIV with unprotected sex with a woman. Don't believe that you can't for one second. I have seen too many cases of that and one is my own uncle who had one drunken night session of sex with a known HIV infected woman. I still don't know how he could be so stupid. There isn't enough liquor in the world for me to get that drunk.
 

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Frosty the rule for posting in the MM section is to have your age posted under your s/n you change that option under user cp

In all honesty I've raw dogged a lot of chicks (especially this year)
not to sound crazy but I think sub-consciously I was making an effort
to get a chick prego, If you think about it makes sense, since we genetically are suppose to pass our DNA on, however I'm glad I didn't get one of these sluts prego

On another note, with STD's going back up, its a good thing to invest in rubbers or better yet practice abstinence (yeah I said)

:whistle:
 

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Dating a 30 year old is like wearing underwear that at least 10 other men have worn. Why not just go lick the toilet seat of an airplane toilet? No different.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

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Oh and by the way,


You are not the only one she is fuvking. Surprised you haven't figured that out yet. I say she has at least three like you.
 

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Something has been said a few times now and I'm surprised no one has picked up on this.

Never EVER put condoms in your wallet! If you carry your wallet in your back pocket the pressure of sitting on it and the rubbing together can compromise the structural integrity of the condom. Also wallets tend to get warm and damp which is also no good.

On that note get rid of your wallet and get a money clip/card holder combo, wallets can mess with your posture especially the hips and lower back. Also having a bulge in your back pocket does not look good when you're suited up, it just looks bad. The only noticeable bulge you should have in your pants is what the good lord gave you.
 

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Falcon25 said:
Oh and by the way,
You are not the only one she is fuvking. Surprised you haven't figured that out yet. I say she has at least three like you.

Haven't figured this out? Let me make it clear right now that I assume most freaks I have sex with is fvkin someone else. That's why I always use a condom
and was worried about it on top of the STD and pregnancy thing. Make no mistake, after not using a condom, I consider all the possible consequence that a man can potentially have to deal with.


As far as keeping a condom in the wallet, the heat becomes a factor after prolonged storage in the wallet. Every time I go out on town with a chic, I grab a condom and stick it in my wallet and place one in my glove compartment. They won't go bad by the end of the night unless it is blazing outside but they are used quick enough for that not to be an issue.

If a man wallet is bulging, he needs a purse. My wallet doesn't bulge.

So I am 38 and I will post that and maybe they will move this post back to the Mature Man. Appreciate all the comments here but it bothers me to think about someone who is the same age of my son who I coach in the women department trying to give me their experienced view. Although it does seem a bit more tame around here but I haven't read much around here yet. Do teenagers and virgins still moderate?
 

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Just post your age on your profile and PM a mod.
That should avoid any problems in the future.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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