"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Third date - expected more than I got.

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First date we went out - ended with a hug.
Second date we went out again - kissed/made out with her several times.

This date.. Okay, now I'm slightly confused... She came over (just me and her) and we had a couple glasses of champagne, talked, watched T.V, and made out. The "date" lasted around 3 hours. No sex. Every time I started to go from kissing/touching her face/neck/upper chest to kissing/touching her breasts (while making out) she'd reposition my hand/head. Seemed pretty obvious that she didn't want to go any further. But for some reason, I don't know why, I expected more. Maybe because it was the third date and she's going away on a trip this Friday for two weeks. Also, usually when a girl comes over to my place sex happens. I'm finding this girl hard to read and I'm just getting a weird vibe.. The thing is, I've gotten three dates with her, so I'm ASSUMING that she's interested.

Am I worrying unnecessarily here, or what?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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When a girl hold's out sex its for a reason.

Either she is really lame.

You aren't being agressive enough.

Women manipulate through physical tactics, so maybe she wants to hook you.

She wants to feel you are in with her for more than hooking up.

And _______

She danm well better hook up with you before her trip or it's tossy time...
 
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I'm not concerned about her holding you back on date 3. I mean 3 dates is not some magic number where she HAS to sleep with you. If it takes 4 or 5 dates, it's not a big deal, assuming you like this girl.


I'm more concerned about things cooling off while she is away for two weeks.
 
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Night-hawk said:
When a girl hold's out sex its for a reason.

Either she is really lame.

You aren't being agressive enough.

Women manipulate through physical tactics, so maybe she wants to hook you.

She wants to feel you are in with her for more than hooking up.

And _______

She damn well better hook up with you before her trip or it's tossy time...
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All possible. Though being more aggressive would probably be me near raping her. I WAS persistent with trying to escalate, but it's really hard to know if a girl actually wants you to be super aggressive and force yourself on her or if she really just doesn't want to have sex. Then, going one way when she wants the other way (I.E forcing yourself on her when she doesn't you to force yourself on her) could really screw you over.

Mike32ct said:
I'm not concerned about her holding you back on date 3. I mean 3 dates is not some magic number where she HAS to sleep with you. If it takes 4 or 5 dates, it's not a big deal, assuming you like this girl.


I'm more concerned about things cooling off while she is away for two weeks.
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Yeah.. No way I can keep that from happening though. All I'm gonna be able to do is send a text.
 
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It wasn't a date, she just came over an watched movies and chilled. I mean, that's really cool, it means she's comfortable spending time with you, and the fact that you were making out with her and pushing the physicality means she's attracted to you, so that's all good. But you're right, its weird that she didn't have sex with you. o_O
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Who cares why? Dump her and find other girls.

Here are the rules....

Date 1: Kiss or dump
Date 2: Heavy makeout or dump
Date 3: Sex or dump

Life's too short to inquire "why."
 
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Just hit her up telling her to have fun on her trip and that you had a good time last night and want to hang out again when she gets back. Go off her response, it's all you can do.
 
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1.) Spin more plates, as they say. Dont put all your eggs in one basket - this should be only one woman out of many.

2.) Just try again next time. Maybe she was on her period or something. At some point when you date enough women you will reach a point where sex doesnt become the end-all be all, the end goal of every interaction. At least this is true for me. Focus on having fun and getting to know her instead.

If there is sexual chemistry sex is inevitable. It wont happen with every woman and every situation is different. Just relax and let things go where they may.
 
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Judge nismo knows that she's not sexually attracted to you. Sorry.

When a woman gives mixed emotions, it's low interest. In this case, she's withholding sex. Yep, women ALWAYS hold the sex card. Women withhold sex to get more from the guys who chase them. And it's always the guys they're not attracted to. It's a 90% chance that she got a guy who's better than you who ain't available, and wants to put you in the friendzone. Hey, she's thinking "Why should I lose all this attention I'm getting from the OP?"

3 dates and still no sex? Sh*t, you might as well be in the friendzone! :mad:

You are guilty of outcome dependency. That comes with a fine of 2 blue balls.

Spinning more plates and making yourself more attractive is the best aide that is for you. That's my ruling.

Case closed.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Well I ended up hitting her up the next night..

ME: I still smell Rihanna on my shirt! (the perfume she was weating) Haha I had a good time last night, *name*. Have fun in *place*, and I'm looking forward to seeing you when you get back.

HER: Haha I'm not sure that's a good thing lol. But I had fun last night too. Thank you for inviting me over last night. And we'll plan something.

ME: Ahaha! And definitely. Talk to you soon :)

HER: Sounds good... Hit me up whenever...
 
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nismo-4 said:
Judge nismo knows that she's not sexually attracted to you. Sorry.

When a woman gives mixed emotions, it's low interest. In this case, she's withholding sex. Yep, women ALWAYS hold the sex card. Women withhold sex to get more from the guys who chase them. And it's always the guys they're not attracted to. It's a 90% chance that she got a guy who's better than you who ain't available, and wants to put you in the friendzone. Hey, she's thinking "Why should I lose all this attention I'm getting from the OP?"

3 dates and still no sex? Sh*t, you might as well be in the friendzone! :mad:

You are guilty of outcome dependency. That comes with a fine of 2 blue balls.

Spinning more plates and making yourself more attractive is the best aide that is for you. That's my ruling.

Case closed.
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I agree with Nismo on this one
 
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