"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Thinking of starting a cold approach thread....

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Ok, out of everything I've read, and seen, there's only 1 thing that matters.... and that is getting out there and making a move.

I went to this club yesterday, I can't dance very well, but I tried to mack it on some broads.


Well I saw a few girls dancing, and I tried to dance with them... It was obvious I am not a good dancer. However I tried making small talk in their ear while I was dancing... they answered me back, and one girl I actually found out a good deal of info about...

However I think my lack of dancing skill turned them off... They dance with me initially cause Im good looking but after that I have no idea what to do


Anyway, what does this have to do with a cold approach journal?

One thing I learned from this experience is you have to go up to the girl you are interested in, you have to try.

Maybe I can't dance well, but if I do this in everyday life (malls, supermarkets, etc...) maybe I will have a decent chance


I have read Pugsley's journal and my hat goes off to him. My thing is I don't think the bookstore is the best place, although I will mix it up.


My plan is to have 100 approaches in journal, I should keep a journal and see what my progress is.

I have never done anything like this before and I realize the amount of balls it takes...


I am 25 and broke up with my LTR, I need to get out there so I stop feeling so lonely and unconfident......


My biggest scare with this is not so much rejection, but if they have a boyfriend who will start with me....

I am going to use the "can i ask you a question.. are you single..." line because its easiest, but if anything else transcends we'll see what happens.


I am 25 single and ready to make my play...


I need advice from anyone and everyone before I do this though or if I should...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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jayer,

That is a good start ...

asking 'excuse me, can I ask you a question .. .."

usually they know somewhat that you are trying to start a convo and if they are interested they will usually stop and listen to your question, but if aren't interested in you they will just keep walking or something like that...


trust me, I 've used this line about a hundred times...just don't ask for direction or something lame like that.. ask here about herself the situation or whatever.

remember, youth is a very valuable thing, you and I are pretty close in age... I must say when you are young and ..going around and asking for numbers you can use your youth to an advantage ...you can be like, he's just young you know its okay to make mistakes ...everybody brushes it off...but if you are like 30 or something trying the liberal DJ techniques trying to pick up women like so.....you can't really brush things off so easily without your youth,...they will be like..why is he trying so hard when he's go old..does that mean he's been in the market and no one's picked him up ...

you catch my drift...be courageous and brave now because youth is on your side if you make mistakes..

down the line..it won't be someday...
 

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This is a great idea Jayer...when I first got into the approaching thing. The first 100 cold approaches were direct.

"Hey your kind of cute, are you single ?"

I pulled this off on trains, walking down the road, London Underground.

This exercise helped me build confidence so I could take things to the next level and build upon the basic opener.

Good luck !!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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yeah, good luck. it's like a domino effect. we read others' approach journals and get motivated to do approaches, then start our own journals...then it repeats. keep it going and good luck. :up:
 

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I will try and start this soon... Hopefully next week. I will post a seperate thread...


I just want you to know that this will be the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I mean I'm the shy kid in class that doesn't talk to anyone.

Thanks for the support, I hope I can do it.
 

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Jayer-

You could always join us for bootcamp. It's helpful to be part of a team to motivate you.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well it just seems like the bootcamp will help you become more sociable but I haven't seen anyone really have more success at attracting or getting women.

I think Pugsley's approach journal was the best thing I ever read. It took such balls, and he gets to the point.
 

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After reading all this stuff...there is only one thing that matters,

and that is going out and putting all your energy and talent into your career and your dreams, and not wasteing your time doing a thousand cold approaches. If you guys would understand how simple this whole thing about women is, you would not be wasteing your energy on something that really produces results that are worthless. Women cannot satisfy you, nor fulfill you. They are just icing on the cake, a cup of Pepsi with the meal, a damn muffin with the pancakes, they are not the meal, they are not the cake, they are nothing.....seriously. Man, this whole women thing is really overrated, put all your focus on your dreams and your career and if you have time....only if you have time, go and spend some time with them.....man, come on guys.

PVSSY-EATER....YOU KNOW...IS OUT
 

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Jayer

I attempted Bootcamp last fall and I had great success. Just three weeks into it I was dating 2 girls at once. But unfortunately I became wussified and got exclusive with one of the girls too soon. Long story short I got dumped and haven't approached since.

The girl who I became exclusive with was an extremely sexy, 20 year old virgin. I'm 28 years old and to me dating a 20 year old that hot was friggen unbelievable. I have never in my life been so impressed with myself as when I did bootcamp.

Anyways, do what you feel is right. I wish you good luck and I hope you stick to it.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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damn I was at a restaurant yesterday and there was this cute waitress. She was being friendly and I couldn't even gather the balls to ask for her number.

How am I going to do this cold approach journal?
 

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The cold approach separates the men from the boys, it takes huge balls (especially when you're not in an already low-resistance venue like a club).

I'm no master, but I never let an opportunity pass by. Look for some interest level - eye contact at the very least - before making the move. You won't score any points by walking up behind her and tapping her on the shoulder or some weak **** like that. Strut on up!
 

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damn right.

Thanks for the advice Ineaki.

I hope to start this next week. Damn how am I going to do this? I hope I don't get dissed bad, or have some girls boyfriend start with me?
 
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