Thinking of dropping out of college...

[ChrizZ]

The problem is I don't know what else I could study to make a decent living and that I have passion for. I'm also pretty good at writing and I speak German, but that prolly won't get me a job. Maybe some of you guys can help me out to find out what's right for me.

@shaunuk: It's scratch.

 

[foxhound87]

If you want to study make sure you study something that appeals to you. Don't go to univeresity because people or your parents tell you to. I see so many people go to Uni because they think that will make them rich. Hahaha, if you want to make a good living get a TRADE If your only 18, I guarantee that you will change your mind before your 20 (We all do it) Try to enjoy yourself, don't let anyone persuade you into spending huge money on a degree, remember that college's are businesses $$$$.

 

[ChrizZ]

If you want to study make sure you study something that appeals to you. Don't go to univeresity because people or your parents tell you to. I see so many people go to Uni because they think that will make them rich. Hahaha, if you want to make a good living get a TRADE If your only 18, I guarantee that you will change your mind before your 20 (We all do it) Try to enjoy yourself, don't let anyone persuade you into spending huge money on a degree, remember that college's are businesses $$$$.

yeah, but I don't know what really appeals to me.

I got three options right now.

1) Stay in the CC in Santa Barbara and don't know what to major in

2) Go to UNI (University of Northern Iowa) and don't know what to major in

or

3) Go to San Diego and become a golf pro.

It is a really hard decision for me and it leaves me sleepless.

 

[penkitten]

yeah, but I don't know what really appeals to me.

most 30 yr olds still don't know what appeals to them either.
that is why we keep telling you to finish your semester up and think of what you want to do in the mean time of making a real decision.

a lot of people do not choose their jobs. they happen upon them and then get good at doing them.

just try not to waste other people's time and money with it.

 

[WestCoaster]

Do the golf thing first, see if you can land a teaching pro job. They're tough to get, but if you're willing to re-locate you can find one. It's a competitive field and they often take guys who are minor pros or played in college. But some guys haven't played in college, you need to be good at golf, however, real good not a hack, obviously. I'm guessing you're pretty good.

Always have a backup plan in life. I changed careers in my late 30's, I now work at a college after many years as a journalist. I got burned out on the former, enjoy the latter. Things change, that's why I say have a backup plan.

You don't have to do college right now, tons of guys and gals go back at later ages. Today I just met with a woman at 46 who is going back to school. So be it, better than doing something you don't like. And if college isn't for you, you can go to trade school or get an associate's at a community college, or build another career.

Just always have a backup plan in life, be it in career, dating/women, everything, because there are no guarantees. If golf doesn't work out, just have a backup plan. I've put all my eggs into certain baskets in the past and you know what? I wasn't rewarded for it.

Hit a hole-in-one! Go for the golf and in your off-time research possibly backup plans, be it college or another career in case things don't work out. In American society we're told to obsess about ONE thing, ONE career, ONE woman ... when things don't work out, we're left out in the cold. Always have options.

 

[Bonez]

“Those who can do. Those who can’t... teach!”

Go tell that to Mystery, Style, David D, Pook.

LMFAO!!!!!

Mystery = ??? What happened with VH1 again?

Style = ??? Um, wasn't it true that the whole AM/fastseduction/thundercat issue turned out to be all lies for $$$?

David D = ??? I never saw him OFF the stage ever.

Pook = ??? Any evidence of him ever sarging?

None of those guys ever showed us anything concrete. They were all acting and every one of them had "hired guns" if they were in the field.

Don't get me wrong though, they were all great teachers.

 

[Bonez]

yeah, but I don't know what really appeals to me.

I got three options right now.

1) Stay in the CC in Santa Barbara and don't know what to major in

2) Go to UNI (University of Northern Iowa) and don't know what to major in

or

3) Go to San Diego and become a golf pro.

It is a really hard decision for me and it leaves me sleepless.

Whatever you do remember that you can take your courses over more than only 3 years. I have the option of doing one course per semester for the next 25 years.

 

[ChrizZ]

the problem is it seems like I have to choose between making decent money or enjoying what I do.

It seems like you can only make money with totally boring jobs these days.

Would you guys rather work a job you like or a job that you don't like, but make a lot of money with?

 

[Michele l'Arcangelo]

the problem is it seems like I have to choose between making decent money or enjoying what I do.

It seems like you can only make money with totally boring jobs these days.

Would you guys rather work a job you like or a job that you don't like, but make a lot of money with?

of course you should enjoy doing you job, thats the cliche answer.

as for me being unexperience and only 18 also... i rather become comfortable/stable and then enjoy what i like on the side, or a side job/hobby.

maybe you should write down your long term goals with short term goals to achieve that LTG, and also your wants and needs.

put those together and find a way to make the most money. budget your wants and needs... as in for the future, save at least six months of cushion to survive incase you switch jobs or something happens, but also save up for personal wants /slash/ unexpected possible investments.

i'm trying to start one of these days to do:
10% (1) tithe (for Christians) / donation (for the non-Christians... or just scratch this whole 10%?)
20% (2) future
20% (3) wants (trips/new clothes/dates?)/(4) possible investments
50% (5) bills/(6) myself (groceries, food)

the bold (#) is for priorities in order... as in which you would/could/should save for first.

i would usually say don't take money advice from poor people, since poor people think poor. but, of course i'm only 18, i'm neither officially a poor or rich guy.

but in conclusion to my opinion...

i rather become comfortable/stable and then enjoy what i like on the side, or a side job/hobby.

 

[ChrizZ]

Ok, I made my final decision.

I'm going to UNI and study to become a Real Estate agent. I totally forgot about Real Estate which is another passion of mine and which I have read many books on.

 

[iqqi]

Ok, I made my final decision.

I'm going to UNI and study to become a Real Estate agent. I totally forgot about Real Estate which is another passion of mine and which I have read many books on.

LOL. Dude. You are all over the place! Maybe you SHOULD just get an associates or a BA in general studies for now, and dabble in all your "dreams" on the side.

 

[persiangino]

You guys must be kidding me. Making a kid who obviously has no motivation to study to attend college is ludicrous. Not only will you go into 100+k in debt with most likely ****ty grades but you'll probably hate yourself for the rest of your life. Remember college is not for everyone and half the people that attend even prestigious unis don't have the slightest clue or motivation concerning their future. Unfortunately, universities in this country are money machines who could care less about your progress and would be more then happy for you to dabble along changing majors until you end up with a worthless degree. Go to college if you are going to seriously STUDY, if not do something else and come back when you're ready.

 

[Celadus]

When I was 18 I was at a military institute with the goal of special forces. 5 years later (two colleges and 3 cities) I'm an equity trader and general hustla.

I don't see why you couldn't do real estate and learn to be a golf pro at the same time. A friend from high school was doing real estate while he was in college (you don't need a degree to do real estate) and paid cash for his tuition. College will always be there, might as well take a shot in the dark if you think golf is what you want to do. You are young enough to make a few mistakes.

Just make a decision but be fluid with your plans. And stay away from useless debt.

 

[squirrels]

Okay, I made my decision.

What can you guys tell me about San Diego? :rock:

As far as cities go, it's f*cking beautiful. But also expensive.

How are/were you financing your college education? Are you going to be clear of debt when you get out?

 

[Mr. Ballz]

I don't see why you couldn't do real estate and learn to be a golf pro at the same time. A friend from high school was doing real estate while he was in college (you don't need a degree to do real estate) and paid cash for his tuition. College will always be there, might as well take a shot in the dark if you think golf is what you want to do. You are young enough to make a few mistakes. QUOTE]

College is for specialization. If you want to be a doctor, teach, get into law etc. It is not neccessary for so many pointless majors that everyone runs to. If you decide to not take college and study for your passion out of school make sure you have the will, motivation and self control to actually STUDY it and put it to use, otherwise school is there just to force you to do it for those pointless majors.

Save the money and study real estate on the side. You can learn so much more from first hand experience that could, if you truly do the studying, take you farther than many schools without the risk of getting bad grades. On the side you could be trying to become a golf pro, if you think you have what it takes.

Im in college to become a physical therapist and this is absolutely necessary, and I am passionate about it. It helps greatly.

 

[dirtyvibe]

LMFAO!!!!!

Mystery = ??? What happened with VH1 again?

Style = ??? Um, wasn't it true that the whole AM/fastseduction/thundercat issue turned out to be all lies for $$$?

David D = ??? I never saw him OFF the stage ever.

Pook = ??? Any evidence of him ever sarging?

None of those guys ever showed us anything concrete. They were all acting and every one of them had "hired guns" if they were in the field.

Don't get me wrong though, they were all great teachers.

I've sarged with former Mystery Method approach coaches and they're certainly legit.

 

[iqqi]

Ok, look, I tried to be humble about this. A lot of guys on here know more about girls than me, or sports, o whatever. I know a lot more than most guys (on here and in general) about the economic benefit of education. ALL of my friends parents (and my parents included) make at least 300k/year. Guess what? All of them attended prestigous universities. Many didn't know what to study at first. Some studied things like philosophy (including my dad, who now has his own management consultancy). They got jobs by having a BA that signals that they are A.)intelligent and B)hard working.
Specialization isn't that important. Showing that your smart is.
Read the following from Wikipedia.

Spence discovered that even if education didn't contribute anything to an employee's productivity, good employees would still buy more education in order to signal their higher productivity to employers. (Economists sometimes call this the signalling hypothesis in education, often cited as a reason why government should not subsidize higher education for workers: more education allows workers to be paid a higher wage but doesn't make society more productive.) Bad workers, for their part, would accept a lower wage rather than pay the higher price (for them) of getting more education. And employers, seeing that the education signal really is correlated to employee productivity, would condition their wages on the signal, offering better wages to those who had invested more in the signal. This is called a signalling equilibrium.

Aside: I had 2 friends just graduate from Tufts, one studied Enligh the other studied Poly Sci. They both found high paying jobs in NYC within months of graduating. My other friend studied Classics at Dartmouth. He's already making more money in private equity than most guys on here will ever see in their life.

Everybody on this site seems to delude themselves about the realities of life. Life is competitive. An education matters, just like your physical appearance matters, etc. A lot of people try to justify their personal failures as virtues.

Your parents didn't have to inve$t as much as you will today: Is college worth it?

For many, college now is just the biggest, and not smartest, gamble of your life.

And this article explains why we don't need any more college grads. And how alot of them end up in jobs they could have gotten without even a high school education, but now they are paying off a college debt, for life. I know a few of these guys personally, and it is a sad, sad thing to see. Because they actually worked their arses off for years getting that magic degree.

Now it is just a piece of framed paper, fcuking with their heads.

Oh well.

 

[ChrizZ]

Your parents didn't have to inve$t as much as you will today: Is college worth it?

For many, college now is just the biggest, and not smartest, gamble of your life.

And this article explains why we don't need any more college grads. And how alot of them end up in jobs they could have gotten without even a high school education, but now they are paying off a college debt, for life. I know a few of these guys personally, and it is a sad, sad thing to see. Because they actually worked their arses off for years getting that magic degree.

Now it is just a piece of framed paper, fcuking with their heads.

Oh well.

My parents can afford it.

I don't just wanna go there just for some diploma. I actually want to learn the skills necessary to succeed in what I wanna do.

 

[iqqi]

My parents can afford it.

It isn't about whether or not they can afford it. It is about is it worth it. And what would be a better investment than college. That is brought up in the beginning of the article, actually.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You need to go to a top 25 school for it to be worth it OR be at the absolute top of your class in your state school. Anything less, it's a total waste.

I agree, especially in regard to law and mba programs.

CC can be a good idea if you can make straight A's, which is not hard, and either transfer to a decent four-year program, or continue on in state school hopefully making nearly straight A's, then score well on an admissions test and get into a top grad school.

Part of the problem here is that these guys are thinking of undergrad college only. You can get 101 nearly worthless degrees, but with top grades and top test scores, that worthless degree can get you into a grad program that can get you a high-paying job.