"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Thinking like a woman (female redpills)

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Oftentimes when dealing with people, be it a discussion, negotiation or simple fun conversation, I try to put myself in other people's minds. After or before the interaction mostly. I find this is extremely helpful and insightful.
I had tried doing this when it comes to relationships with women, but I did it rarely and with limited success. I think I believed the "women can't be understood" myth.
Since discovering the manosphere I find that this much more useful now, thanks to hypergamy, amused mastery, alphas and betas, etc.
But I still fall short many times.
When I mean "putting myself in other people's minds" I really mean trying to think and feel like a woman, and her attraction to a man... And this is also why I never used it here before. It's hard for me to imagine myself attracted to a man.
(Is gender a social construction?)

So.
I want to read crystal-clear pure-honesty opinions of women who can self-analyse their behaviour and attraction before and after knowing about the red pill.
Are there blogs or books out there?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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happyDJ said:
So.
I want to read crystal-clear pure-honesty opinions of women who can self-analyse their behaviour and attraction before and after knowing about the red pill.
Are there blogs or books out there?
I don't think you'll learn much. Women in general lack the self awareness and introspection needed to mentalize into words something tangible a man can understand. The ones that can are rare as hell and seem to be more male brained than female. I remember there was Hitori? over at masf back in the early 00's and there's rappacinisdaughter over at heartiste. That's the closest I personally have ever seen. For more red pill "lite" women there is sunshine Mary who has a blog and also redpillwifey I'm told but I haven't read anything from her. There's also girlwriteswhat's youtube channel.

Personally I think you'd be better off just hanging around different women in real time to get an understanding.
 

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Red pill wifery. Go into the "red pill" archives and there you will find endless amounts of validating truth to all this from women within the articles and the comments from women.
 

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In addition - there is also a brand new red pill for women subreddit that is gaining momentum.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Dgwizdal said:
In addition - there is also a brand new red pill for women subreddit that is gaining momentum.
Ah yes, /r/RedPillWomen/, this is what I was looking for, this should be a very good place to start from. The sidebar has many links already.

I do think we can learn much from listening to women, but on two different levels. In real life, be very careful with what they say, you can learn from what they say but mostly in the long run, when you see a pattern. In the long run with a particular woman, and in the long run when averaged over several women. What a woman says in a particular moment, out of context, is worthless to try to understand and believe.
On the other hand, with online anonymity and red pill in their faces, I know some women will take a step back and give an honest (to their best) analysis. This is what I'm looking for here.
 

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I don't think you'll learn much. Women in general lack the self awareness and introspection needed to mentalize into words something tangible a man can understand. The ones that can are rare as hell and seem to be more male brained than female. I remember there was Hitori? over at masf back in the early 00's and there's rappacinisdaughter over at heartiste. That's the closest I personally have ever seen. For more red pill "lite" women there is sunshine Mary who has a blog and also redpillwifey I'm told but I haven't read anything from her. There's also girlwriteswhat's youtube channel.

Personally I think you'd be better off just hanging around different women in real time to get an understanding.
Thanks for the suggestions!
 

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happyDJ said:
Oftentimes when dealing with people, be it a discussion, negotiation or simple fun conversation, I try to put myself in other people's minds. After or before the interaction mostly. I find this is extremely helpful and insightful.
I had tried doing this when it comes to relationships with women, but I did it rarely and with limited success. I think I believed the "women can't be understood" myth.
Since discovering the manosphere I find that this much more useful now, thanks to hypergamy, amused mastery, alphas and betas, etc.
But I still fall short many times.
When I mean "putting myself in other people's minds" I really mean trying to think and feel like a woman, and her attraction to a man... And this is also why I never used it here before. It's hard for me to imagine myself attracted to a man.
(Is gender a social construction?)

So.
I want to read crystal-clear pure-honesty opinions of women who can self-analyse their behaviour and attraction before and after knowing about the red pill.
Are there blogs or books out there?
This is called empathy and it's seriously underestimated by many people. It does require you to completely forget everything and direct full attention to another person. It's a pretty advanced skill, but it's highly effective for connecting with people and cooperating.

When you become really good at it you can understand people just by looking at them. Reading non-verbal communication. Much of this can't be easily learned by reading about it.

You will learn more and understand more by interacting with women. What many people forget is that words are only a small part of communication. When you include emotions, body language, eye contact and facial expressions you will get a much clearer picture of what they are trying to tell you. This will again make it easier to respond appropriately.
 

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happyDJ said:
Ah yes, /r/RedPillWomen/, this is what I was looking for, this should be a very good place to start from. The sidebar has many links already.

I do think we can learn much from listening to women, but on two different levels. In real life, be very careful with what they say, you can learn from what they say but mostly in the long run, when you see a pattern. In the long run with a particular woman, and in the long run when averaged over several women. What a woman says in a particular moment, out of context, is worthless to try to understand and believe.
On the other hand, with online anonymity and red pill in their faces, I know some women will take a step back and give an honest (to their best) analysis. This is what I'm looking for here.
I have a 25yr old plate that is a member there, I just play dumb when she mentions it. I'm like oh yeah redpill & blue like the matrix...NEAT. There's a redpill mens section as well, haven't really dugg into it.
 

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I'm got 25yr old plate that is a member there, I just play dumb when she mentions it. I'm like oh yeah redpill & blue like the matrix...NEAT. There's a redpill mens section as well, haven't really dugg into it.
Yes, I would also pretend I don't know much about it.
Why?
Read the 48 laws of power.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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happyDJ said:
Yes, I would also pretend I don't know much about it.
Why?
Read the 48 laws of power.
Kool thanks man, I've heard others mention it before. I need to check it out.
 
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