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Thinking about getting into real estate....any advice?

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Hello out there,


I am a 21 yr old jr. history major right now at a major university who is thinking strongly about getting into the real estate biz this summer. I am thinking real estate because property is always being bought and sold, and other professions (i.e. internet .coms) can be somewhat temporary in nature (a fad that can go under). Ive seen people on this board and others say that real estate can allow you to make big time cash. My goal is to be able to make 6 figs a few years out of school and be able to invest some in a manner that will allow me to live a comfortable, semi lavish (not mtv cribs, but a nice home, wife, kids) lifestyle in my 30s and so forth.
What I am thinking of doing is getting my MA real estate license in a course when I get back for summer break, then latching on as an assistant, intern, or salesperson for some real estate company for the remainder of the summer. If anybody has experience in doing real estate, would you be able to tell me some things about it and or advice? (i.e. how much you make, commission, the life, the daily grind, the room for potential). I am a hard working person and feel that I could sell houses to people after getting my feet wet , and I need to find a fufilling career in order to start making things happen instead of toiling away with a major that has a limited amount of things you can do with it. I am definately going to finish my undergrad, but this was my way of getting into the biz to start at the very least. Thank you to anybody who reads this and can enlighten me with some sage advice.
 

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yeah i got some advice.....dont double post :D
 

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I was thinking Real Estate, too. You can make great money, but the one thing that turned me off is that you basically have to always work on Saturday's and Sunday's.
 

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Inyeresting...

Originally posted by Tempest
I was thinking Real Estate, too. You can make great money, but the one thing that turned me off is that you basically have to always work on Saturday's and Sunday's.
hmm.... and working hours etc> how do those work? And when u say "great money", how much u talking about per month? (roughly)


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Very few make money in this field, that is why the turnover percentage is about 80-90%. Most RA make around $25,000 per year, however the top RA make 6 to 7 figures per year. A lot of people have the idea that you can work 30 hours a week and make over $100,000 a year.

It's a great field if you have a lot of drive, self discipline, and ambition.

Good Luck!
 

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hmm..... I got a few questions....

Originally posted by tristan22
Very few make money in this field, that is why the turnover percentage is about 80-90%. Most RA make around $25,000 per year, however the top RA make 6 to 7 figures per year. A lot of people have the idea that you can work 30 hours a week and make over $100,000 a year.

It's a great field if you have a lot of drive, self discipline, and ambition.

Good Luck!
What will differ between the ones that make lets say $100.000 a year and the ones that make lets say $25.000 a year? What will the ones that make $100.000 a year do that the ones that make $25.000 wont? "Drive, self discipline, and ambition." Can you please explain these further in regards to THIS kind of job? Like what can a person do that will make SUCH a difference in the annual income that he makes? Thanx;)


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RE brokers.......

Hey,

Go talk to some agents and brokers.....

It is a 'tuff' line of work.

The attrition rate is high, about 95% never last past the first two years in the field.

10% of the brokers make 90% of the money.

The other 90% make about 20 to 25 grand a year and starve.

Good luck........

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ummm... wow.

Originally posted by cave dweller
Hey,

Go talk to some agents and brokers.....

It is a 'tuff' line of work.

The attrition rate is high, about 95% never last past the first two years in the field.

10% of the brokers make 90% of the money.

The other 90% make about 20 to 25 grand a year and starve.

Good luck........

cave dweller
May i ask where you got your figures and information from? And Do you perhaps know what makes those 10% get more money than the other 90%?:confused:
Thanx;)


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RE.......

Hey,

I have 'dabbled' in the real estate and stock market for several years.

I had a friend (Louie), owned his own company several years ago.
My cousin (Ed) had his own real estate brokerage firm for about 15 years.
My friend (Frank) is a real estate instructor.
Also, another friend (Jack) used to teach real estate courses.
I was a regisiered real estate appraiser for a couple of years.

But, don't take my word for the stats--of 10% of the brokers make 90% of the money. Just talk to anyone at Century21 or ReMax.

also,

www.onlineagent.net
www.creonline.com

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autos.........

Also,

Most used car sales people make more money than your average real estate agent...........my 2 cents

What I am saying is the average RE agent don't make 'jack'.

Why?---the damn commission split

ie:

a $10,000 commission check is (most of the time) split this way

25% to listing agent
25% to listing office
25% to selling office
25% to selling agent

Like I said, don't take my word for it, talk to a couple of folks in the business.

again just my 2 cents.....

cave dweller
 

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Thanx....................................................................

Thanx cave dweller man, helped alot... appreciated;) Looks like I am going to take interest in something other than real estate:rolleyes: ...

Thanx again...


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If you have a lot of leads and people interested in using you to sell their real estate, by all means use a brokerage company such as remax to work for. A company like remax allows you to pay a monthly fee and keep 100% of the commision you earn.

Most Real Estate Agents in my area make roughly 7% off the sale of a house. 7% seems like a small amount if your dealing with crap houses, but keep in mind 7% is alot of money when you deal with high dollar homes. If you sell a million dollar house, you will make more then most people make in one year off this one transaction.

Being successful in Real Estate has a lot to do with referrals. The more people you list = the more signs you have in yards = more advertisement = more people calling you to sell their home. Joining local clubs, organizations, and socializing in your community is a great way to get your name out there.

Most of the successful agents in my area are worse then used car salesman. They are women with bad hair styles and greedy personalities; what i'm trying to say is old bags.

I have my license, but havn't started pursuing this field yet. I am going to take this profession by storm and make six figures my first year.
 

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rat........

22,

I wish you well in real estate sales.......

It is a crowded field out there (there is a licensed agent standing on every corner)

I heard the drop-out rate was 95% at the two year mark for new agents.

I am told it is --dog eat dog and rat eat rat----

cave dweller
 

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Real Estate Agents

." Like what can a person do that will make SUCH a difference in the annual income that he makes?"

it is a sales job.. VERY dynamic. its not like working at a burger king or something...

The market is not as bad as some have made it out to be. Well its not where I live . (can vary greatly from county to county, let alone state to state.) in my county.(not country) we are in what is called a sellers market, where the seller has a lot of control over how the sell is made as there is a very high demand in housing around here, not enough of it. A typical seller is expected to make at least 97% of what they ask for on the house.(number taken from a newspapper article from where i live).

Of course there are exceptions.. motivated sellers for instance are people that dont want to wait for the best buyer, they may be in a situation like a family death, where they just want to sell the house to pay off left over debt or whatever. These are the ones you can easily turn a profit on as they can be talked into a no money down situation quite easily. kind of crude but its business and a lot less evil than some of the crimes committed in my neighborhood.

People here are saying its a horible job and only a select few "make it". Its a SALES JOB. it takes skills that, frankly, some just wont want to learn. LOTS of social skills. In prospecting for a new customer, as an example, you have to communicate with people to get your name out there. But these people say that only 10% do in fact make anything worthwhile in realestate sales.

Fine, I wont argue that. Yes thats right, im saying that in the begenning EVERY SALES JOB IS HARD! think about how many fail in the car sales occupation or are doing meager at best. Once you get going however, I think that you will find, there are higher and higher percentage of people "making it" that have forced themselves to pickup the skills needed. Not just drop out cause it was too hard, the ones that want to adapt, learn, and create opportunities, and eventually make it.

Yes i will not say Real Estate is not hard from the get go. There are terms that I still dont understand studying at this for about a year now. Ive often heard that, Starting out is the tough part. However, they have Real Estate companies that you can join to help you with that. You can join up with a company like windermere, for example. They will help newbies by passing down information to you. Even actual sales opportunites.

as to the people talking about the commission splits, i cant say. I am not currently a real estate professional (am studying to be one). However I do know this bit of information. Say you make about 3% on a home sale, and u sell a condo for 200,000 - thats $6000 commission. If you work for a company like windermere, they will take %50 off of your first sales, up until a certain number like $20,000 or something, after that all your profits come to your pocket. So of that 6000, you get 3000. This is to help pay for the MLS service they subscribe for you, and also to help newbies to the business, as well as a cut for themselves im sure =].

I personally think Real Estate should not be first looked at as a full time job, instead a side job to pickup extra financial aid. Then later once you have a niche .(a place where you can go to pickup lots of customers, say you are in a rockclimbing club and u pass around business cards there, this would be your niche, these "friends"<another reason for social skills> of yours would tell their friends and this is how you get going) once you have your niche you'll be making money with the big sharks.(so ive heard =])

As to the topic starter's question( ive boiled it down into this ) How can I make a 6 figure sum of money, by the time im in my 30's? cuz we all know damn well that we will have no social security by the time me or proscribe gets to be 60.

Well, I cant say you wont make a mil. as a real estate agent, you probably will, if you stick with it.

I think there is a better way. why not take a normal job, in say web design, learn how to do that, but in your spare time, learn how to do the real estate thing. Do both jobs, once you get good at the real estate thing buy yourself a nice house for yourself, or houses. Sit on them, or better yet, rent them out to people. That way you pay no property taxes and they will be paying off ur loans.

With the expierience you gained from web design, make yourself a webpage, hire someone to put it on a nice and successful search engine, like "google.com". With the social skills from being a real estate agent (and no doubt the money), stop posting on so suave (maybe down to once a week). With your spare time go clubing, pick up on a hot HB10 that is perfect, the way you always dreamed your future wife to look and be like, marry her. sit around for a little bit, make some kids, and win at life.

In doing all this in 9 years it will be even more possible to make a million dollars. I think Str8up said it best:

"Lets say you inherited $100,000 from your dead uncle. In many areas you could use this to pay cash for a condo. If you did so you would likely generate a positive cash flow every month, and on top of that you would benefit from the appreciation over the years. Probably not a bad investment.

If you were to split this money into multiple down payments on the other hand, you would be able to purchase more units that tenants ultimately pay for with THEIR money, and you will be the one collecting the payoff on MULTIPLE properties in the end.

This is the most important (and most basic) principle behind acquiring large scale wealth. ANYONE with a little discipline can shove $100 per month into a 401k and have a nest egg in 30 years. It takes guts and determination most people don’t have to build wealth in less than half that time. Leverage is the incredible tool that allows you to make it happen.

And to anyone who challenges leverage as being “risky”, OF COURSE IT IS! It can send you to the moon or sink you to the bottom of the sea. But if you have the knowledge, experience, and resources to back you up you will find that it isn’t NEARLY as risky for you as it is for the people crying “watch out!” from the sidelines.".


All or most of the information here has been gathered from reading booked by the author Robert Kiyosaki, and others, By reading Str8up's post awhile back which is a great resource wish there were more like it around so suave,however it is getting a little old and is on 12 pages now!Also by my high school realtor/business teacher (works for windermere, and drives a very nice car, compared to the other teachers at my school).

All in all Real Estate is a very hard business to get into, as an invertor or as an agent.Lots of money can be made in it however. But however you look at it, It represents a very good DJ feel that most jobs like cubicals and burger kind just dont have to me.

PS. Its been a long day so sorry if i havent corrected any (there are alot) of my spelling/grammer errors, but im just tired gnight and gluck!
 

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I work as a real estate agent.

All this analysing is bullsh*t.

The principles of being a DJ is nearly the same as being an agent. For the number of RE agents who start there are many who fail. For the number of so called "DJs" there are many who make it and there are tonnes of others who think IT but still AFC to the bone. Big drop out rate.

Prospecting = Cold Approach: Basically the more you approach the more success you will get. It is a numbers game. As an AFC you will have hardly

Marketing = Being Dj, Being out and socialising: You need to spread yourself out to all your prospects

Farm Area = Your Location: Why look for water in the desert when you are already in the sea? Basically Why fool around in a different town, facebook, myspace, internet dating, long distance relationship etc as a DJ when you have all the HBs in your area? as RE agent you should concentrate in an area you are good at. In 2 suburbs that may have 3000 homes with around 5-10% moving within a year. If you get 20% market share of that that could be 30-50 homes to sell in a year...Calculate the commission on that. That is a lot of houses selling and you have to catch them before anyone else does. Thats only a couple of suburbs that you have to concentrate and dedicate your time. I've seen agents who f*ck their own time and resources by going after a big city who have too much fake ambition and ****iness. They go broke in no time.

You can probably make your own comparisons but you will find that there are many.

At the end of the day, you can be the smartest and most knowledgable f*cker in the area but you can fold after a few "NOs" and "F*CK OFFs". You can be the hottest and buffest guy in the club but then cry like a baby cos a girl rejected you. You have to have PERSISTENCE, ENERGY, DRIVE, DETERMINATION, AGGRESSIVENESS AND ALPHA-BALLLLLLLLS to survive. Sounds familiar? You bet it is.

I know another agent who I closely work with (one of a few who I can actually trust)...he DOESNT know now to use a laptop let alone his phone!!! But he is the best agent in the office.

Keeping a vendor in your side is basically just like keeping your gal on your d*ck!! You have to be extremely honest in a firm and assertive way. If they give you hassle you have to cut the loose! Otherwise they drag you to their own misfortunes and f*ck you over.

And here is the number 1 phrase we always use...

BUYERS are LIARS...and VENDORS are WORSE!!!!!

By the way I am good as a starting agent because I value honesty, customer service, work ethic and strive to always do the right thing to my clients. There is no substitute for quality work. You can be downright snaky and you wouldn't last because of customer referal base. Simple as that.
 
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