"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Think I made a breakthrough tonight

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Well tonight I met up with a girl from Tinder. Just a quick casual date, I picked her up and we had tacos and then walked around a bit.

Now normally when I'm out on a date I'm usually really interested in a girl and tend to come off a bit too strong.

This one was a little different though. This girl was about a 6 (so bangable on my 1/0 binary, would fvck, would not fvck scale.) The thing was she just seemed so...well DUMB. The conversation was really boring. Whenever I would say something slightly interesting about myself she would get way into it and shower me with compliments. She just seemed like she was trying too hard. This is how girls must feel when betas flood them with attention. She was also a terrible kisser and wore way too much lipstick.

So for the first time, I've gone out with a girl that is attractive enough for sex, but I don't think I really want to see again. Perhaps the more women you go out with the better developed your standards become.

You see there's been a lot of stuff I understood in theory. But it seems to be finally falling into place to where the red pill is becoming deeply engrained. I think I can continue this mindset moving forward. I am the prize. The girl needs to prove her worth to ME. Not the other way around. Thanks SoSuave. Couldn't have done it without you.

Keep on improving my brothers!

"As you think, you shall become. " - Pook
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Well tonight I met up with a girl from Tinder. Just a quick casual date, I picked her up and we had tacos and then walked around a bit.

Now normally when I'm out on a date I'm usually really interested in a girl and tend to come off a bit too strong.

This one was a little different though. This girl was about a 6 (so bangable on my 1/0 binary, would fvck, would not fvck scale.) The thing was she just seemed so...well DUMB. The conversation was really boring. Whenever I would say something slightly interesting about myself she would get way into it and shower me with compliments. She just seemed like she was trying too hard. This is how girls must feel when betas flood them with attention. She was also a terrible kisser and wore way too much lipstick.

So for the first time, I've gone out with a girl that is attractive enough for sex, but I don't think I really want to see again. Perhaps the more women you go out with the better developed your standards become.

You see there's been a lot of stuff I understood in theory. But it seems to be finally falling into place to where the red pill is becoming deeply engrained. I think I can continue this mindset moving forward. I am the prize. The girl needs to prove her worth to ME. Not the other way around. Thanks SoSuave. Couldn't have done it without you.

Keep on improving my brothers!

"As you think, you shall become. " - Pook
Having someone work hard for you will be good for your confidence, I'd keep her around. She'd make a great "fluffer". You can't have a roster full of flakes and time-wasters you know, that's bogus.
 

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Having someone work hard for you will be good for your confidence, I'd keep her around. She'd make a great "fluffer". You can't have a roster full of flakes and time-wasters you know, that's bogus.
Eh, it's nice to have a girl work hard for you but only really when you're into them too. I've already got a couple of coworkers who are trying real hard to get with me. It gets really annoying after awhile
 

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Just because a female technically is on the "pass" side of a "pass/fail" bone-able test doesn't necessarily mean you REALLY want to F her or HAVE to F her.

I think you still need SOME sort of connection, no matter how shallow or short-lived it might be. There still might be things about her personality or actions that might turn you off.

Even for ONS' in the past, I always preferred to have a good connection even if we only talked for less than an hour prior. Sort of like a GFE with someone who isn't a prostie lol.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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"For as he thinks in his heart, so is he."
Prov. 23:7
 

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Good work OP. Whatever realisations we come to, they are all useful for the evolving mindset.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with keeping low value women on rotation. I'd rather be out on my own, free to approach attractive women, than go out with an unattractive women. Your own value is negated by lower value associates, especially in the eyes of women. Plus I don't/can't bang women I don't find attractive anymore.

That being said, it is good for confidence, and as I always attest, the best way to keep someone's attention in the first instance is to be a couple SMV points ahead of them. Alright for a short term fling, until they get too clingy.
 
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