hello all. been living with gf for 6 months now. all was good at the start as usual, loads of affection, early nights etc. now either my hands are too cold, i'm making her hot laying right next to her, the long cuddles have turned to a quick cuddle then push away. its driving me mad. i can't use the ignore for 5 days method as we live together. guess i try too hard also, telling her i love her, being a nice guy in general. probably where i'm going wrong. we had an argument a few days ago and she has only just started talking to me again. help.
Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Greasy Pig
Master Don Juan
I'd make yourself "busy" and get out of the house more.
Start hanging with your buddies more, start a new hobby, join a sporting team, hit the gym and show her that there's more going on in your life than putting up with her shyt.
I'm sure once you start getting buff and displaying less needy behaviour, she'll change her attitude.
Good luck.
Start hanging with your buddies more, start a new hobby, join a sporting team, hit the gym and show her that there's more going on in your life than putting up with her shyt.
I'm sure once you start getting buff and displaying less needy behaviour, she'll change her attitude.
Good luck.
must admit, i have turned in to a pu$$y. she was perfect at the start and i did anything for her as i still do. got to turn things around but in a subtle way i think. dont just wanna start being an idiot around her and never try and kiss and cuddle her, or is that wrong?
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The VERY FEW things all guys on this website in a relationship NEEDS to practice ALL THE TIME:
1) Make sure your woman KNOWS you are the PRIZE (or else you become another woman's PRIZE)
2) Never pedestal her because you ARE the PRIZE (but make sure you fulfill her emotional needs by telling her beautiful things about her sparingly or else she will want to hear it from another man instead)
3) Always appear you have OPTIONS in front of your woman (dress well, be groomed, so other women will stare at you when in public with your woman at your side).
4) NEVER - again, NEVER tell your woman she has ALL of you. Shut your mouth up about how you can never live without her, or else you will find out you CAN in the end.
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1) Make sure your woman KNOWS you are the PRIZE (or else you become another woman's PRIZE)
2) Never pedestal her because you ARE the PRIZE (but make sure you fulfill her emotional needs by telling her beautiful things about her sparingly or else she will want to hear it from another man instead)
3) Always appear you have OPTIONS in front of your woman (dress well, be groomed, so other women will stare at you when in public with your woman at your side).
4) NEVER - again, NEVER tell your woman she has ALL of you. Shut your mouth up about how you can never live without her, or else you will find out you CAN in the end.
With respect,
Exodus
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These guys have it right. You need to go out and get a life. Do the right things and if it's not too late her interest will increase in you.
Romance
Respect
Affection
Can't have these if you're insecure and telling her you love her every 5 minutes.
Romance
Respect
Affection
Can't have these if you're insecure and telling her you love her every 5 minutes.
Renegade357
Master Don Juan
Gotta add that I'm struggling with the same thing. Although not nearly as in bad shape as you. I don't live with my girlfriend and I am aware of what needs to be done. My chick is still in pretty positive territory but I refuse to let my guard down. I really like this one.
Getting them to fall in love with you is the easy part. Keeping them is way harder. I wish there was more advice out there on keeping a girl in love with you. Most of the time guys don't even realize that their woman is losing attraction for them until it's too late.
Getting them to fall in love with you is the easy part. Keeping them is way harder. I wish there was more advice out there on keeping a girl in love with you. Most of the time guys don't even realize that their woman is losing attraction for them until it's too late.
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Here are some of my additional contributions after 40 years of experience to keeping a girl in love with you:
- Love what you see in the mirror, and be ****y about it a bit to get out of the nice guy mold. Perception is sometimes reality, get your woman to believe and know you are the PRIZE. If you don't like what you see in the mirror, do anything and everything to get there because it is mental and you can not hide it in the end with how you act and behave (get totally new wardrobe, wear brand names if it makes you feel better, get some cologne on, get fit and defined, learn to public speak because it will build your voice confidence).
- Realize most of us walk around in our lives getting into relationships out of CONVENIENCE instead of LOOKING FOR what we really need. Recall all your past relationships, did you ACTUALLY make sure the woman you were with fulfilled your requirements (if you had one!!), or just because she was into you, acceptable looks or blinded by hottiness, and that made it easy and CONVENIENT?? What are you worth? If you are WORTH something (and is the PRIZE) then you will learn to be PICKY and never SETTLE for convenience again because those relationships don't last and is a waste of time; hurting you in the end and turning you into AFC being brain-fooked by women of poor fit for you.
- Understand how many levels of attractions and compatibilities there are in a woman who is GOOD for you (not just convenient). These are:
1) Physical attraction (she may not be a HB 7+ but you still want to do her over and over again, this is a requirement, not a COMPROMISABLE requirement!!) - you must be proud to be with her in public, but not necessarily a trophy because trophies loves new owners in the end.
2) Chemistry - this is hard to explain, but you want to imagine doing everything and anything possible to her when you are alone....
3) Mental attraction - can she talk with you on the same level? Does she GET you? Is she stupid or inspires you with ideas? You can't be with a woman who you can't respect in a long term relationship, nor one who looks down at you from the height of feminism and narcissism. Is she so feminine and caring that although she is just a HB6, you have a connection with her personality that makes you feel like you are with a HB9??
4) Spiritual attraction - do you both believe in the same things spiritually? Religiously? Do you feel the same way about life's purpose and what it is about? Or do you have to hide about how you feel in these things?
I have to say it is very difficult to find someone who fits you on ALL levels, but the more you can fit on, the happier and long lasting you will be with the woman right for you. In the end, always make sure your woman KNOWS you can walk anytime out of her life and has plenty of OPTIONS with other women, if she misbehaves - a woman who knows she has you FOR GOOD, is a woman who has no more challenges left and will look for the next emotional fulfillment to her vag.
Good luck.
With Respect,
Exodus
- Love what you see in the mirror, and be ****y about it a bit to get out of the nice guy mold. Perception is sometimes reality, get your woman to believe and know you are the PRIZE. If you don't like what you see in the mirror, do anything and everything to get there because it is mental and you can not hide it in the end with how you act and behave (get totally new wardrobe, wear brand names if it makes you feel better, get some cologne on, get fit and defined, learn to public speak because it will build your voice confidence).
- Realize most of us walk around in our lives getting into relationships out of CONVENIENCE instead of LOOKING FOR what we really need. Recall all your past relationships, did you ACTUALLY make sure the woman you were with fulfilled your requirements (if you had one!!), or just because she was into you, acceptable looks or blinded by hottiness, and that made it easy and CONVENIENT?? What are you worth? If you are WORTH something (and is the PRIZE) then you will learn to be PICKY and never SETTLE for convenience again because those relationships don't last and is a waste of time; hurting you in the end and turning you into AFC being brain-fooked by women of poor fit for you.
- Understand how many levels of attractions and compatibilities there are in a woman who is GOOD for you (not just convenient). These are:
1) Physical attraction (she may not be a HB 7+ but you still want to do her over and over again, this is a requirement, not a COMPROMISABLE requirement!!) - you must be proud to be with her in public, but not necessarily a trophy because trophies loves new owners in the end.
2) Chemistry - this is hard to explain, but you want to imagine doing everything and anything possible to her when you are alone....
3) Mental attraction - can she talk with you on the same level? Does she GET you? Is she stupid or inspires you with ideas? You can't be with a woman who you can't respect in a long term relationship, nor one who looks down at you from the height of feminism and narcissism. Is she so feminine and caring that although she is just a HB6, you have a connection with her personality that makes you feel like you are with a HB9??
4) Spiritual attraction - do you both believe in the same things spiritually? Religiously? Do you feel the same way about life's purpose and what it is about? Or do you have to hide about how you feel in these things?
I have to say it is very difficult to find someone who fits you on ALL levels, but the more you can fit on, the happier and long lasting you will be with the woman right for you. In the end, always make sure your woman KNOWS you can walk anytime out of her life and has plenty of OPTIONS with other women, if she misbehaves - a woman who knows she has you FOR GOOD, is a woman who has no more challenges left and will look for the next emotional fulfillment to her vag.
Good luck.
With Respect,
Exodus