Things Are Not Going To Change Until

[CHICAGO27]

We change.

WE are the problem.

Well, more specifically the men who pander and accommodate to modern day women. As long as the majority of men out there put women in front of their own interests we are going to continue to deal with this situation.

We are the ones who create their power.

We are the ones who have given our power away.

We are the ONLY ones who have the power to take it back.

We need to set standards. We need to put ourselves in front of our own sex drives that power our intentions. We need to punish those women who disrespect us by withdrawing our interest. We need not reward those women who make poor life decisions. The single moms, addicts, serial daters, gold diggers and other undesirables need to be ignored.

YOU make poor life choices and we are not going to reward you for them.

We are going to stop caring whether or not we are an "alpha" "beta" "gamma" "epsilon" or whatever. Stop caring about how many woman we have laid or how many HB10's we have scored. We are going to stop caring what other guys think of us. Stop caring about whether or not someone thinks we are gay because we are in our 30's, 40's 50's or whatever and single.

We will decide to take control.

Take back our careers. Take back the jobs that have been lost to women and homosexuals. Reestablish the natural order that has existed for thousands of years.

We will have standards. We will speak our minds. We will no longer be politically correct. We will not be outcome dependent.

We will not get married as we know women are mercenaries who will exploit and bleed our resources dry.

We will make the rules.

We will lead.

Stop obsessing when you are supposed to do things with women. A man who worries about "calling" making "sexual advances", etc, is relinquishing his power.

Accept current reality. The scales are tipped in the favor or women. It's our responsibility to take control back.

So, as long as men continue to pursuit of the golden box ahead of their own self respect things are going to continue to stay as they are.

 

[DonJuanit0]

A really good mindset there, but we are only posters on a website! The sad fact is that probably the 80% of men out there will never see or understand all these things!

Women will never give their power so easily! Who would?

The only good thing I see, when thinking that most of men act like that, is knowing that women are insecure creatures who crave for security from a real man! Although they all want to seem independent and strong, deep inside they want someone to set their frame straight. Have someone to believe to. And there is us, people who have read and learnt about all these staff and are ready to face the challenges.

Although the world won't probably change, we here have an advantage!

 

[SeymourCake]

http://i.imgur.com/kncuY.jpg

 

[zekko]

I appreciate what you're trying to do there, Chicago27, but it isn't going to work. I agree that men must lead and set the standards, but guys here will only blame women for all the problems, and use them as an excuse to do what they want to do anyway. Which is to slack off, practice promiscuity, and b!tch about women on the internet.

 

[Don_Dom]

There is a book that was suggested to me but I have not gotten or read yet called "Enjoy the Decline." Apparently the premise of the book is to first help the reader acknowledge and go through the various stages of grief needed to accept the fact that America is in an irrevocable downward spiral into socialism and that by virtue of that, the traditional ideals of the American Dream are no longer attainable. The idea behind the book is how to make the most of it and still enjoy one's life, despite the demise of opportunity, potential as an entrepreneur, and all the things that were available to those with a rugged individualist mindset previously. In short, while others waste their lives clinging to a belief that it can still be saved and turned around, by accepting the reality you, as an individual, can still make the most of life from a realistic standpoint rather than being doomed to failure from a standpoint of hopeful stubborn obstinance. To be honest, I really don't want to read the book, but I fear I must.

But that's pretty much what we are doing here. As zekko said, as nice as it would be to change things for the better, that's not really something we can do here. This forum is for those individuals who have seen that something is amiss in the modern world...what we were taught and what is continually reinforced by the culture and media isn't jibing with what we actually see happening in our own experiences and those of other men. So we are here to do two things, essentially....Identify what the true lay of the land and rules are and how we can thrive as men in the actual system, not the fantasy one that is, apparently, being foisted on the world.

It would be nice to actually change things, but it will take a lot more than a bunch of guys on a forum trying to get laid. The best any of us can hope for is to do the best we can for ourselves and, hopefully, help others do the same in doing so.

 

[CHICAGO27]

I appreciate what you're trying to do there, Chicago27, but it isn't going to work. I agree that men must lead and set the standards, but guys here will only blame women for all the problems, and use them as an excuse to do what they want to do anyway. Which is to slack off, practice promiscuity, and b!tch about women on the internet.

All you can do is try.

I guess I could lie back and not try but what good is that going to do? You are probably right that "mandom" is f'ed up beyond repair. I, however, believe that if you can enough men like myself and others who know what it takes, perhaps, we can make a difference.

The thing is that women won't change unless we lead and create change. Too many men whine and moan about their current predicament.

Too many whiners and not enough doer's

 

[CaptainSaveAh0]

I agree, its easy to just blame others constantly and come up with excuses to make yourself feel better. But in the end we are in control of our destiny and future. The worst person to lie to is yourself. Nice post, I think understanding that you control your decisions and future is an important part of being an alpha male

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I guess that's why men are the laborers of life and creators of civilizations

 

[El Payaso]

Take back our careers. Take back the jobs that have been lost to women and homosexuals. Reestablish the natural order that has existed for thousands of years.

Man, some guys that come on SoSuave sometimes are something else. Racists, homophobes etc. It's a good thing this site exists though. It's a sort of mental therapy for these nutjob keyboard jockeys. It would be terrible if they didn't have such a non violent outlet to take out their frustrations for being a loser in real life.

 

[DragonBlood]

repped. MGTOW this guy gets it.


Not sure on the homo splash but a good read over all.

 

[Jair213]

A really good mindset there, but we are only posters on a website! The sad fact is that probably the 80% of men out there will never see or understand all these things!

Women will never give their power so easily! Who would?

The only good thing I see, when thinking that most of men act like that, is knowing that women are insecure creatures who crave for security from a real man! Although they all want to seem independent and strong, deep inside they want someone to set their frame straight. Have someone to believe to. And there is us, people who have read and learnt about all these staff and are ready to face the challenges.

Although the world won't probably change, we here have an advantage!

+1 bro good stuff

 

[CHICAGO27]

"Take back our careers. Take back the jobs that have been lost to women and homosexuals. Reestablish the natural order that has existed for thousands of years."

If a homosexual or a woman is more qualified than me to do a said job I will step aside gracefully.

The problem I see, is that some homosexuals are starting to get the same advantages that women are getting. Some will argue that they deserve these advantages for all the years they have undergone persecution.

The do deserve equal rights to pursue their happiness without persecution.

They do not deserve an unfair advantage.

I do consider homosexual lifestyle a threat. A threat to the natural order. A threat to male dominated society. Even more of a threat than feminism.

That is my personal opinion and if you want to call me homophobic feel free.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

women bear the kids, men are the laborers of life and creators of civilizations, that's how Chris Arnett, a.k.a. PlayerSupreme stated it

 

[CHICAGO27]

When the natural order erodes, so goes the civilization.