"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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They kind of KNOW what you like them...

Babnik

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When you approach a woman and start talking to her then she already knows you like her...she knows when you start flirting.

Some of you say that you should pull back at some point and show disinterest to make her want you more.

So, you're saying that I don't do that and still end up making out within 10 minutes of meeting her then she is likely to flake as far dating goes because she knows for sure that I like her?

What if she already likes YOU?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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If she likes you she will make it known by returning your calls. If she flakes and makes excuses then you know her interest level wasn't as high as you thought it was.
 

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When you approach a woman and start talking to her then she already knows you like her...she knows when you start flirting.

Some of you say that you should pull back at some point and show disinterest to make her want you more.

So, you're saying that I don't do that and still end up making out within 10 minutes of meeting her then she is likely to flake as far dating goes because she knows for sure that I like her?

What if she already likes YOU?
You have a SERIOUS flaw in your game, I've been reading your posts and I'm not sure exactly what it is yet... Give me a while, I'll figure it out


-Cod3r
 

Babnik

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Cod3r said:
You have a SERIOUS flaw in your game, I've been reading your posts and I'm not sure exactly what it is yet... Give me a while, I'll figure it out


-Cod3r
I don't have a game, and not planning on having one. I'm out of it. I do things how I like and want, and if it works then it works. If it doesn't then it doesn't.

I feel that doing NOT what I want downgrades me down to some level of pu*sy-chaser. So far it kind of works, btw. Not always, but it does.
 

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Cod3r said:
You have a SERIOUS flaw in your game, I've been reading your posts and I'm not sure exactly what it is yet... Give me a while, I'll figure it out


-Cod3r
I get the feeling he's just not really a very sociable kinda guy. You know those stone-faced types who hang in the background at parties with a beer in their hand? And an I-don't-take-any-shyt look on their faces that is believable enough that not only don't people give them shyt but they don't even bother talking to them? That's Babnik, imo. And he likes it that way. Fine. But then he wants to pick up chicks to and <clunk> he has to shift gears and suggest that he's a fun guy to hang out with. Not easily done. His problem is compounded because, as he says, he's Russian and isn't fully comfortable socializing the "American" way, or, said differently, socializing "in English" (even though he's clearly fluent in the language TECHNICALLY--it's not him CULTURALLY).
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Babnik

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danielzxc said:
I get the feeling he's just not really a very sociable kinda guy. You know those stone-faced types who hang in the background at parties with a beer in their hand? And an I-don't-take-any-shyt look on their faces that is believable enough that not only don't people give them shyt but they don't even bother talking to them? That's Babnik, imo. And he likes it that way. Fine. But then he wants to pick up chicks to and <clunk> he has to shift gears and suggest that he's a fun guy to hang out with. Not easily done. His problem is compounded because, as he says, he's Russian and isn't fully comfortable socializing the "American" way, or, said differently, socializing "in English" (even though he's clearly fluent in the language TECHNICALLY--it's not him CULTURALLY).

Right. Almost. I am not like that with Germans and Austrians and Brits. Its so much easier with them.


THING IS. My friend, an American kid, is also like me and he pulls girls like crazy. He is even MORE of an outsider. I'm serious. You can barely see him talk.
 

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Some confusion here methinks...

Its okay for a girl to know you are "interested" in her. In fact it is a massive turn on for girls.

Its when you start pulling out all the stops to win a girls approval when all you know about her is that she's an attractive female that you have a problem.

Its in the attitude.

So good attitude is: This chick seems interesting. I'll see what she's like and find out if she's fun. If she meets my standards I might even gift her some lovin'.

Bad attitude is: This chick is what I am desperate for. I will do anything to make her like me.

There are no absolute rules in these kinds of things. You don't HAVE to do any particular thing when dealing with girls. There are just various tactics that can be used depnding on the situation. Sometimes the situation requires you to show active disinterest, sometimes it isn't necessary. With practice you develop the intuition to know when to play it cool and when to turn up the heat.

So no, a girl isn't more likely to flake if she knows you're "interested" in her. But she is more likely to flake if submit to her in order to win her approval.
 

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Jay Jay said:
Its okay for a girl to know you are "interested" in her. In fact it is a massive turn on for girls.

Its when you start pulling out all the stops to win a girls approval when all you know about her is that she's an attractive female that you have a problem.

Its in the attitude.

So good attitude is: This chick seems interesting. I'll see what she's like and find out if she's fun. If she meets my standards I might even gift her some lovin'.

Bad attitude is: This chick is what I am desperate for. I will do anything to make her like me.

There are no absolute rules in these kinds of things. You don't HAVE to do any particular thing when dealing with girls. There are just various tactics that can be used depnding on the situation. Sometimes the situation requires you to show active disinterest, sometimes it isn't necessary. With practice you develop the intuition to know when to play it cool and when to turn up the heat.

So no, a girl isn't more likely to flake if she knows you're "interested" in her. But she is more likely to flake if submit to her in order to win her approval.
I never submit to anyone. I just make it like a flirty interview where I am the one checking her out and she either has to pass or not pass. I make it reasonable, but if the chick passes then I kiss her. WRONG?

Its just I never had girls TRY to submit me. They never try to walk over me. They THEMSELVES often accept what I say or they just disagree and choose the other. None of them EVER forced their ways upon me.

Why is that? Possibly not comfortable enough and not trusting enough to even start her own game?
 
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