"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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TheMonkeyKing

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SS brethren,

How does one go about addressing the game needs of one's friends and even younger brother?

To give an example, my mate, we'll call him D!ck, because that's his name.

D!ck and I have recently met a group of new Europeans, one in particular is undeniably a 9. Bit of a pudgy face in places, but about 5'10" with the body of a f*cking thoroughbred racehorse and epic double-D rack. We'll call her Nina, because that's her name.

D!ck, Nina, Max, Dominica and TMK go to the pub a few nights in the week. Nina and Dominica obviously are focussed on TMKs game and become fixated on dolphins after TMK breaks the deathly silence by spouting some drunken gibberish about how dolphins in different parts of the world talk different languages blah blah blah, you all know the drill. Max and D!ck look on gormlessly with blatant envy of the attention that TMK is getting. Nina and Dominica start doing seal noises, TMK rips them to shreds for it, if it were not for these to complete beta layabouts getting in the way I probably could have scored my first threesome.

All the while, my mate D!ck thinks Nina being polite and friendly and him being all friendly and complimentary back, they are 'flirting'. Literally, I can feel how uncomfortable Nina is, everytime D!ck tells her how beautiful she is. I wouldn't say beautiful, I'd say filthy-looking.

Second night in the pub.
Nina playfully 'isn't talking' to TMK because TMK told her the previous night that his real name is Steve. This is the name I always give when I don't want people to know my name, or I'm just shooting the cr@p. TMK proceeds to pick up on the previous evening's work and brings up all number of 'stimulating' topics as stalking, masochism and at one point I accidentally drop a small coin next to Nina and say, 'There, that's your tip'. The place is in uproar and Nina is actively engaging in kino with TMK, while D!ck and Max occasionally interject with the odd 'You're so beautiful' and a very mild, luke-warm neg to Nina.

Anyway, I adjourn and leave the 'flirting' to D!ck. I end up dancing with some other birdies on the train ride home anyway. Really starting to hit my stride with approaching, just need to translate it in to day game now.

This morning D!ck is texting TMK saying how Nina was flirting so much last night.... she wasn't, she was flirting with TMK, but that's not really the point. The point being is that D!ck is oblivious.

Now, this isn't a bang on about how great TMK is with women in comparison to his beta mates. It's about, how the f*ck do I stop my mates sucking so much with women(?), because, at least when I am out with them, it has a direct impact on my game as well. I end up not saying anything out of embarrassment of their drooling compliments.

I am so tempted to just set up a SS profile in D!ck's name using his email so he gets the notification.

Any thoughts or similar experiences?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Were in the same boat. My friends consider small talk "flirting" and still use that "you're pretty" approach as well. Basically being friendly is considered "flirting" to them. Now about going on and helping them... The thing about guys like this is they're ignorant. They believe what they believe "works" and won't let anyone try and tell them otherwise. The only way to help them is to let them come to you. You cannot teach one who is not listening. As for the night outs, it might be time to run solo if you're planning on picking up women. Or find people who actually understand game.
 

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Ya, cheers Frayzer.

Like you say, there's no telling some people. And also delivering true flirtations is not a skill that can just be picked up over night anyway - I still get it wrong a lot.

The problem also is that D!ck takes constant issue with me about being 'better-looking' and guilt-trips me in to not actually flirting with women just to make him look a bit better. I could have f*cked this Nina bird already if it weren't for him f*cking it up for the both of us. I'm not bothered either way, he can have her, but instead neither of us get her!

I am gonna start going out alone again. The lone ranger has the best odds.
 

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Quick update.....

Managed to get hold of the bird Nina on Thursday night as she came back in to the pub knowing I would be there but none of the others were.

The pub was closing so I suggested we grab a couple of beers and head down to sit by the river. She agreed.

Long story short, we got kissing and I had a little feel and peek at those absolutely awesome double D's.

She said she'd come down to my hood next weekend, but we're likely to meet before then (Thursday or Friday), with all the other chumps there who may well f*ck my chances up. They may well not be aware of my own progression...

Any suggestions about how to treat the situation and not to f*ck it up for the possible lay would be mostly appreciated. I am tempted to stay a distance altogether and just tell her to come to mine on Saturday....?

Anyone else had a similar successful situation?
 

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TheMonkeyKing said:
Quick update.....

Managed to get hold of the bird Nina on Thursday night as she came back in to the pub knowing I would be there but none of the others were.

The pub was closing so I suggested we grab a couple of beers and head down to sit by the river. She agreed.

Long story short, we got kissing and I had a little feel and peek at those absolutely awesome double D's.

She said she'd come down to my hood next weekend, but we're likely to meet before then (Thursday or Friday), with all the other chumps there who may well f*ck my chances up. They may well not be aware of my own progression...

Any suggestions about how to treat the situation and not to f*ck it up for the possible lay would be mostly appreciated. I am tempted to stay a distance altogether and just tell her to come to mine on Saturday....?

Anyone else had a similar successful situation?
Nice going so far haha :cool:

I would def. try to get her alone before hanging out with the crew, that or just don't go that night and she just may hit you up asking where you are. Then you set up the solo hang out.

IF you did go I would prolly be late..like right as they were about to leave then invite her back to your place.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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