theres seduction, and theres attraction

[ELITE_WOMANIZER]

theres a big difference between the two, i want to point this out.

seduction is when you entice someone into wanting or doing womething with deception.

attraction is a powerful emotion, its more than an emotion that all animals including humans experience. it will make ppl do things they normally wouldnt approve of doing, for example, a woman will stay in a relationship with an abusive bf becuase she feels the strong attraction for him.

when a woman gets a man to want her, she doesnt use seduction to do it. She may have voluntarily or involutarily triggered attraction in the man with her stunning beuaty. when a girl walks around the mall, shes got a nice body, nice face, and all the guys are drooling over her, shes not seducing them, shes attracting them.

there really no need to seduce women using weird deception tools like eliciting values, or ss. those things dont even trigger attraction in women, they usually just trigger an emotional attatchment if the guy is lucky, and that is not the same as attraction, oh no.

what you need to do is think in terms of attraction, not seduction. What things are some things that women are programmed to feel attraction for? not how can i manipulate her thinkning process with mirroring techniques?

just would point out that the ultimate goal of you seducers out there is to trigger attraction, so why waste your time seducing, when you could spend that time on doing things that are attracting?

 

[radiodude]

You are sort of right....

"seduction is when you entice someone into wanting or doing womething with deception"

I disagree. Seduction is when you appeal to someone's temptations which arouses them into doing something. Yet, they still have control. They simply allow the desire to overtake them. It's getting someone to do what they already want to do deep down. There is no deception in it.

Both attraction AND seduction are good, b/c both interplay with each other. Attraction can cause seduction, and most likely vice versa. So, you need both.

 

[ELITE_WOMANIZER]

"I disagree. Seduction is when you appeal to someone's temptations which arouses them into doing something. Yet, they still have control. They simply allow the desire to overtake them. It's getting someone to do what they already want to do deep down. There is no deception in it."

WELL, THAT IS AN ACCURATE DEFINITION OF SEDUCTION.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING.

LET ME CLEARIFY, ATTRACTION IS BASICALLY YOUR MATE SELECTION DEVICE, JUST LIKE FEAR IS A DANGER EVASION DEVICE. BOTH ARE INSTINCTUAL THINGS THAT WILL OVERIDE LOGIC, AND ARE VERY VERY VERY POWERFUL AT INFLUENCING YOU.

WHERE AS SEDUCTION IS ABOUT DANGLING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF THEM THAT THEY WANT, THEY GET TO CHOOSE THAT THEY WANT IT.

ATTRACTION HAS THE EDGE SINCE YOUR PLAYING ON THE FACT THAT THERES NO CHOICE INVOLVED, YOUR PLAYING ON NATURAL HUMAN DESIRE, LIKE HUNGER FOR EXAMPLE. ONCE ITS TRIGGERED, THEY WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES TO SEE TO IT THAT THEY GET IT, AND THEY HAVE THEIR BIOLOGICAL INFLUENCE THAT WILL DRIVE THEM, AND ENSURE THAT THEY GIVE IT THEIR BEST.

SO THE POINT IS, ATTRACTION IS MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE THAN SEDUCTION. IF YOU CAN SEDUCE HER, GREAT, IF YOU CAN ATTRACT HER, CONGRATULATIONS, YOULL HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS WITH HER. AND THATS MY POINT, I HOPE YOU GET WHY ATTRACTION IS A MUCH MORE POWERFUL INFLUENCE ON A WOMAN THAN SEDUCTION WILL EVER BE.

 

[xblitz44x]

theres a big difference between the two, i want to point this out.

Wrong. Seduction is the process in which one creates an ATTRACTION to him. Attraction is the end result of a successful seduction. At the end of the seduction, whether it was done with directness, or deception, the ideal end result will be attraction.

seduction is when you entice someone into wanting or doing womething with deception.

Also wrong. You can seduce somebody without using deception. I have seduced many women into fvcking me by simply talking about things that feel good. When we began talking about things that turn her on, she got turned on. She was in a horney state, I was there so I made a move. I fvcked her. There was no deception involved.

ATTRACTION IS A MUCH MORE POWERFUL INFLUENCE ON A WOMAN THAN SEDUCTION WILL EVER BE

Once again, they are not even on the same level. You seduce TO attract. You attract TO fvck. If you can attract another way besides seducing then great, go to it. I just know for a personal fact that seducing is an effective way to attract women.

-Blitz

 

[SexPDX]

Blitz said it all

There's seduction, and there's attraction.

...just like...

There's stupid posts, there's REALLY stupid posts.

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- The performer known as Nick

[This message has been edited by SexPDX (edited 10-07-2002).]

 

[Jester]

good post dude!

You ssers are really caught up in your own view of whats right and wrong arent you.

Too bad youre wrong, haha.

Right from websters.

seduction

\Se*duc*tion\, n. [L. seductio: cf. F. s['e]duction. See Seduce.] 1. The act of seducing; enticement to wrong doing; specifically, the offense of inducing a woman to consent to unlawful sexual intercourse, by enticements which overcome her scruples; the wrong or crime of persuading a woman to surrender her chastity.

2. That which seduces, or is adapted to seduce; means of leading astray; as, the seductions of wealth.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


Main Entry: at·trac·tion
Pronunciation: &-'trak-sh&n
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 a : the act, process, or power of attracting b : personal charm
2 : the action or power of drawing forth a response : an attractive quality
3 : a force acting mutually between particles of matter, tending to draw them together, and resisting their separation


there is no obscurity between the two. its funny how people will fight over what they think is right without ever actually bothering to look it up.




[This message has been edited by Jester (edited 10-07-2002).]

 

[Drew]

When the community usesthe term seduction, it uses it to mean doing things that trigger attraction, we aren't using it to mean "deception."

So the point of this whole post is MOOT.

Elite W, why don't you post HOW you trigger ATTRACTION?