"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I just find it funny when I go out to see a 5'3" 115lb girl towing a 6' tall 190lb dude around the bar like he's a broken down car.

But even MORE funny, is when the chick starts to make eye contact and smile at ME, while she has her ass planted in this dudes crotch and he has his arm wrapped around her waist. Meanwhile, her friend is in on it and is looking over and smiling as well....

Now this hasn't happened to me a lot, but I've seen it happen in the past with friends several times. Hell, thinking back I've had one chick do it to ME. Maybe not drag me around like a little red wagon, but definitely making eyes at other guys when I was around.

The thing is, these chicks might be doing this while they are facing away from their b/f, but it takes an idiot not to see it happening.

Back when it was happening to me it was my first g/f and I was pu$$ywhipped, so I didn't know any better, but for a guy who is in his late 20's to allow himself to be pulled around like a b!tch while his girl is subtly flirting with other men, it's just sickening!

Experiences?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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What would you have done in his situation, and why, is the real question.
 

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Aenigma said:
What would you have done in his situation, and why, is the real question.
What would I have done?

I would like to think that i wouldn't ever let myself get into that kind of situation again.

If I found myself with a chick who was trying to pull me around and scoping out other guys when she was with me, there wouldn't be a next time, that's for sure.
 

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STR8UP said:
What would I have done?

I would like to think that i wouldn't ever let myself get into that kind of situation again.

If I found myself with a chick who was trying to pull me around and scoping out other guys when she was with me, there wouldn't be a next time, that's for sure.

there wouldn't even be a THIS time.
 

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If I found myself with a chick who was trying to pull me around and scoping out other guys when she was with me, there wouldn't be a next time, that's for sure.
If I found myself being pulled around by a chick while she's scoping out other guys, I'd wonder how I ended up on a porno set...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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SharinganUser said:
If I found myself being pulled around by a chick while she's scoping out other guys, I'd wonder how I ended up on a porno set...
Or a swingers bar. Maybe she was lookin for a 3rd.
 

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On a more serious note: Say you were that guy. You are mad about her flirting with other guys and tell her. Her reply is "I'm young, I like to have fun, I'm just flirting w/ no intention to act on it, you're the one with your arms around me and are you that insecure blah blah"

Basically she says she's a good time girl who likes to turn other guy's heads but is not necessarily going to blow them in a back alley.....
 

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MaddXMan said:
On a more serious note: Say you were that guy. You are mad about her flirting with other guys and tell her. Her reply is "I'm young, I like to have fun, I'm just flirting w/ no intention to act on it, you're the one with your arms around me and are you that insecure blah blah"

Basically she says she's a good time girl who likes to turn other guy's heads but is not necessarily going to blow them in a back alley.....
Exactly. The translation is: "Shame on you for not letting me do whatever I want."
 

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I remember being pulled around the place in my AFC days. Thinking about it makes me realise how AFC I was.


When a woman does that to a man it says that she's the dominant partner and in control and all he's short is a dog collar around his neck and a lead. :eek:


If a woman in the company of a man is flirting with another man then that says alot about their relationship. Shes basically saying I have you but I'm looking to upgrade or maybe just a change because you're not worthy of me. It's also a lack of basic manners and makes the woman look common which she probably is anyway.
 

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STR8UP said:
I just find it funny when I go out to see a 5'3" 115lb girl towing a 6' tall 190lb dude around the bar like he's a broken down car.

But even MORE funny, is when the chick starts to make eye contact and smile at ME, while she has her ass planted in this dudes crotch and he has his arm wrapped around her waist. Meanwhile, her friend is in on it and is looking over and smiling as well....

Now this hasn't happened to me a lot, but I've seen it happen in the past with friends several times. Hell, thinking back I've had one chick do it to ME. Maybe not drag me around like a little red wagon, but definitely making eyes at other guys when I was around.

The thing is, these chicks might be doing this while they are facing away from their b/f, but it takes an idiot not to see it happening.

Back when it was happening to me it was my first g/f and I was pu$$ywhipped, so I didn't know any better, but for a guy who is in his late 20's to allow himself to be pulled around like a b!tch while his girl is subtly flirting with other men, it's just sickening!

Experiences?
It is sickening. And I was that dude when I was in my early 20's. I was a total pvssy whipped chump like that. Thinkin back on what some of my g/f's did that I put up with, it is literally insane... and pathetic.

Luckily with age comes wisdom, and men get better with age, our value remains high much longer than women. Now the tables are turned, and I must say it feels goooood brother.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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It's also a lack of basic manners and makes the woman look common which she probably is anyway
You're too nice dude. Common? No. It makes her look like the vile little cvnt that she is.
 

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slaog said:
If a woman in the company of a man is flirting with another man then that says alot about their relationship. Shes basically saying I have you but I'm looking to upgrade or maybe just a change because you're not worthy of me. It's also a lack of basic manners and makes the woman look common which she probably is anyway.
8 times out of 10, the woman is nothing more than an attention wh*re who has no real interest in the guy she's eying. Her motive is to see if the guy she's "eying", will reciprocate...and if he reciprocates, bam, she got her validation. There's A LOT of attention wh*res out there...a lot, a lot, a lot.

And from what it appears, most women won't cheat on their man. The most they'll do is flirt. I used to be so paranoid that my ex was f*cking and/or interested in another guy. I look back now and think of how "off base" my thinking was. A lot of us need to stop thinking our girlfriends are f*cking or interested in other guys. I'll only believe it when I see it, hear it, or have good evidence to believe so. We need to trust more. That's not to say though, be naive and stupid either.
 

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I see this happen a lot, and I'm often one of the guys that those chicks flirt with, or even dance with. In fact, it happens to me so many times that if I sense that the chick I'm talking to is being too flirty while I haven't even warmed up yet (or in PUA terms, her Buying Temperature appears to be going up too fast without me doing anything), it usually means that she has a BF, and the guy is just around somewhere (or hasn't arrived at the venue yet).

Some of them are just attention wh0ring. Some are setting themselves up for "one thing leads to another"...
 

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One night when I was in college a buddy came into the dorm room and we got talking about his night, about all the stuff that happened. He told me something I will never forget but at the time I didn't understand.

It doesn't matter what she does in the bar, because you are the one she will be banging at the end of the night.

I didn't understand that until years later when I was working at a bar and my girl showed got drunk there. A different friend, an older coworker, said to me word for word the same thing.

It doesn't matter what she does in the bar, because you are the one she will be banging at the end of the night.

I followed that advice and I nailed her everyday for two month until the summer ended.

Moral of the story? It doesn't matter what she does in the bar, because you are the one she will be banging at the end of the night.


On the flip side if you are one of the guys that she is flirting with, who cares? You get some attention, practice, and some good mojo to take home another girl. You shouldn't be going to clubs to pick up girls, just go for a good time.
 

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My ex would add and talk to random guys on MySpace..I used to think she was interested in them...until she wrote on her profile, "Any guys who try to pick me up, FORGET ABOUT IT..read my status section for more information". Of course I'm not gonna be naive and say that couldn't have been bullsh*t, but I'm gonna lean more towards the side that it was sincere.

I've realized, most of the time they won't cheat on you, they're just out "attention wh*ring".
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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