"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The theory is .. if a girl doesn't feel worthy of you or on your level, and the more attention you give her (if you're out of her league), she will run.

This really is a big difference between men and women. Women that frequent the bar scene will ONLY GO FOR LOSERS!! They do not have the self-esteem to go higher and in doing so only feels internally wrong. Women are more internal. They will only go with what is comfortable. In other words, women are much more apt to select a partner based on the same level feeling that they are.

The only exception is a one night stand where there is not enough time to sort that out.

The lesson learned her is that if your 'decent' and have good high standards, the bar scene is a complete waste of your time.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
The theory is .. if a girl doesn't feel worthy of you or on your level, and the more attention you give her (if you're out of her league), she will run.

This really is a big difference between men and women. Women that frequent the bar scene will ONLY GO FOR LOSERS!! They do not have the self-esteem to go higher and in doing so only feels internally wrong. Women are more internal. They will only go with what is comfortable. In other words, women are much more apt to select a partner based on the same level feeling that they are.

The only exception is a one night stand where there is not enough time to sort that out.

The lesson learned her is that if your 'decent' and have good high standards, the bar scene is a complete waste of your time.
They go after the losers because they're APPROACHABLE. THe reason they don't go after the "decent" guys is the same reason you're scared to go talk to that perfect-10 hottie...they don't feel worthy.

So you need to make yourself more approachable.
 

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Yep...chicks approach the approachable, hug the huggable and fvck with the fvckable...

If chicks aren't approaching you then you just gotta change the way you view yourself...you gotta work on your animal magnetism...you gotta work on your devine 'able' nature...

Don't repel...attract...
 

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Woah... women approaching men? What's going on here? Maybe I got confused in the translation...

I do understand the bar scene... and 90% of the time, this is correct. I like to refer to them as bar *****s. Especially out here, I can walk into a specific bar on any day of the week, and expect to see the SAME women there everytime. I never really tried to approach these women, after realizing what type of men go to pick up these women, and realizing that I'm LEAGUES beyond these guys. I'd have to say my most successful pick up to date was a girl I met through my friends girlfriend.

I do agree with the fact that females are more internal. That's why it's important to minimize the UNcomfort level as quickly as possible. This depends on situation to situation, but generally, it envolves showing aggressiveness without being overaggressive... I show it by smiling all the time, play touching, laughing, etc. I was with a girl last night, couldn't keep eye contact with me at all while we were dancing together, but didn't have a problem grinding like crazy with me. I asked her for her phone number, and I never seen a girl whip out her phone so fast, and VERIFY that the number was typed in my phone correctly. Basically, I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter WHAT the girl thinks, whether she is shy or not, or if she thinks you are out of her league or not. As long as you can maintain control, you can make her comfortable. After all, she's going to get comfortable with you being in charge just as much as she's going to have to be comfortable with your touch.
 

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Good points, especially the one about being LEAGUES beyond the other guys.

Yeah, it just doesn't work or compute. The girls that go to these place are always the same, and hell, they even wear the same dam clothes alot of them, because they think that is what will be the most attractive.

This kind off track, but would interesting to get some view points.

Anyway, i always thought Jennifer Garner was kewl but after she started dating Ben Afflack, and seeing her at the movie awards, can tell she doesn't have that true self-esteem. I mean, alot of them dress like sluts, but it's almost conducive. She wasn't as bad as some, but could've done a bit more. Anyway, I think Ben Aflack is a punk, so guess that's where i'm coming from.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Hah, celebraties is a whole 'nother animal. Think about it this way, if you were a celebrity, the only people that are going to be any type of challange to you would be, well, another celebrity. And when you realize that most celebrities still have the EXACT same problems all humans do, well, there's just not enough good competition to chose from (since it's such a high social level that few people achieve it). And most celebrities won't take (or don't have) the time to go find that man or woman on OUR level that will still pose some sort of challange. Frankly, I'm glad I'm not a celebrity. I got a better playing field. ;) And who says life is unfair!?!?!?!?!
 

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I always thought Hillary Swank was a 'good girl', and seeing her at the awards seems to verify it. She was dressed classy, yet conservative, and didn't talk like a ditz.

I'd still like to Jennifer Garner though .. it's a dam shame that Ben Jughead is getting that action.
 

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This really is a big difference between men and women. Women that frequent the bar scene will ONLY GO FOR LOSERS!!

Uh, don't men do that too?

They do not have the self-esteem to go higher and in doing so only feels internally wrong. Women are more internal. They will only go with what is comfortable. In other words, women are much more apt to select a partner based on the same level feeling that they are.

Uh, to tell you the truth... Women are better at guaging what kind of men are more compatible with them than the other way around. That is why women usually are more attracted to guys that are more emotionally/financially/etc like them.

The lesson learned her is that if your 'decent' and have good high standards, the bar scene is a complete waste of your time.

You seem like the person that's blaming the bar scene or women in bars for going after men and pay little attention to you. Instead of putting down women, ever think about fixing yourself to be more attractive in any scenario besides the bar scene?
 
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