Re: Theories, ideas, and thoughts galore. What is a DJ?
"But we are all seducers and it depends on how you seduce. First, we are AFCs, Nice Guys, who agree with everything the hot chick says, give her flowers, chocolate, bad poetry, and endless attention. We bend to her every request, listen to her every word, and put up with all her bad behavior. Second, we are bitter guys who burn with hard regret from the Nice Guy stage. We turn to philosophy, to science, to answers as to what is going behind this foul process called love. Then we move into the third stage, the Jerk Stage or Revenge Stage. Woman are seen now as mere objects to collect. We backlash against kindness, only to defy and rebel every social institution. The fourth stage is the Speed Seducer who sees chicks like ducks in a row to be shot and tally up scores on a knotch. The fifth stage is the Challenge guy. Not needing to swiftly get the chick, he moves slow, slow, slow. Now we go to the sixth stage of the seducer, the guy of Fun and Craziness. He cares no more for manuals and patterns. He is a blaze of merriment, his dating focuses entirely on the thrill of the fun and nothing else. The last stage is that of the transcendent. The guy no longer has any overcoming thirst for women or for a girlfriend/wife. He realizes that Time is flying by and he must plant the remains of his youth into his talent and skill in order to have something to harvest later in his life. Women go first towards this seventh stage, then the sixth, then the fifth, and so on down to the Nice Guy. After that, all is nirvana. -POOK
JC
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Now your on the line JC, I'm sorry for doing this, but sometimes this DJ world justs turns into people spitting back what has already been said. Quoting a real question a list of life stages is not an answer, that's like picking up a book of 1930 psychology and telling me I'm anal retentive, like loking at me and saying get over it.
I can't it's not something to get over. I am at level 7, the ****y lasted about a week for me. I've done the fourth stage speed seduction, the fifth of the guy who waits like realnezz, and the 6th who is just plain fun. I've applied all the levels to women, but as I grew into level 6, things started to change, so many different portions of my life began to materialize.
Everybody around me started to have new problems, I could solve most of them with a few simple words, some got worse and harder to deal with. Other people were invading my own personal life with phone calls to my family to request them to beg me for things. I had people calling long distance to my parents after they did a search on where I lived to ask them for favours, they'd call out my brothers and sisters to try and make their lives crap.
So I stood back and looked at my game of focusing on women. I realized there was more to it than that, I always knew there was. So I started standing up for my principles and applying seduction to my life, changing peoples lives in the smallest way, by making them think... Still I couldn't reach out to more people. I could focus only on a case by case basis, and my options began to change, my life started to fall apart, one thing after another after another.
I was in University at the time. My classes were based on answers that had a definite yes, or a definite no. I was whizzing through the classes, I only had to find the key theories, and apply them to the key questions, and translate them into key equations. My mind buzzed with questions and I spoke up in every class rasing questions where girls would than come to me for my opinion on random things. Everyday I had people I had never seen before stop a group and tell people to say hi to me, I wasn't on the planet anymore, I felt so much glee that my mind was completely focused on math and sciences... than I got a call.
My bestfriend calls me and tells me he wants to commit suicide. The day after, his siter emails me saying he's dead, I should come to his funeral... since that day my life has been sh!t. I'm slowly regaining my balance and applying theory after theory to my life, solving equations in my friends minds from the absolutes they give me, and creating simple answers for their simple problems...
So I ask again, what makes a DJ?
I have no fear of not finding a wife or a gf. I'll look for it when the time calls for it, which may be never. I have no desire to pass on my seed anymore, I've had condoms break on me before, more often than statistics suggest is probable. The girls all had miscarriages, I've cried while drunk with the thought of my possible child having been flushed down the toilet.
I can't tell you what I do not fear though. I never could. I can't ever tell somebody what I don't know, because that just does not compute in my mind. I have tried to speculate, but it never sounded right.
My ideas and thoughts are becoming poisoned and reinvigorated with life again though. Every night I lay in bed for hours holding back laughter at the possibilites of laughter and betterment that I could help people with... ON a person to person basis, and it rips me apart that they won't be able to pass the buck.
One thing I want to be able to do, is inspire responsibility in people...
I'm going to do some research on excuses, I think it is time.
Thanks for letting me work this out JC. Means more than you let yourself imagine.