"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The worst thing is falling in love with a stranger

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Ok so I saw her again yesterday she was on break sitting eating a snack one of her co workers was near by but he was half asleep so I moved right in.... I did not want to waste any time so I smiled and said hello then asked her if she had a boyfriend... She smiled and said yes in a giggly way. I simple said ok! and excused myself... I am not surprised at all that someone snatched her up...

Now the reason i did it this way is because i did not want to rush into a brick wall,... THis approach lets her know i am interested in her but leaves her wondering what if? i will be friendly with her since i see her often and later on i will ask for her number so we can hang out as friends , then i will go from there...
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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good lord. you have almost 2000 post and thats the best you could do? You need a bootcamp in your life. you need to start over from square one.
 

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^Agreed, and I want to say the same thing - 2000 posts and you think 'have you got a boyfriend' is a good opener? That's worse than saying nothing the first time!
 

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Nighthawk said:
^Agreed, and I want to say the same thing - 2000 posts and you think 'have you got a boyfriend' is a good opener? That's worse than saying nothing the first time!

Ok now just to be clear for every one....

I currently have 3 F buddies, all in college 20, 19, and 22 years old... they are cool but are mainly only good for F'ing... I also have 2 new plates that I am working... They do nothing for me emotionally and that is what i now crave...

I am far from lame with regular women but 5% of the time i fall hard and become and AFC times10!!!! due to my emotional starvation! LOL Its odd but it kind of feels good to know that i can still feel since i have become so cold, emotionless and calculatively manipulative with women to get F's...

No i normally dont start with do you have a BF but I really liked her and did not want to waste any time BSing if she is already involved! I want 1 girl who i can love and cherrish... i am tired of hos sluts and F'buddies.... I want to be myself and not have to BS around.... If you cant understand that desire then what ever.
 

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Warrior74 said:
good lord. you have almost 2000 post and thats the best you could do? You need a bootcamp in your life. you need to start over from square one.
LOL no i dont.... I am a player manipulator and womanizer but i dont want to be that way with tis woman.. if that means i cant have her then so be it... She is not a ho or slut so i dont want to use ho slut techniques on her..
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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DonGorgon said:
LOL no i dont.... I am a player manipulator and womanizer but i dont want to be that way with tis woman.. if that means i cant have her then so be it... She is not a ho or slut so i dont want to use ho slut techniques on her..
I have a hard time (from reading your post) believing you are a womanizer. Also seems like you are terrified of approaching.

Any why if your "womanizing" techniques are so good with hood rats why would would you stop using what is successful.

Like the old saying goes "if its not broke why fix it"
 

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Brandonc662 said:
I have a hard time (from reading your post) believing you are a womanizer. Also seems like you are terrified of approaching.

Any why if your "womanizing" techniques are so good with hood rats why would would you stop using what is successful.

Like the old saying goes "if its not broke why fix it"
In 2008 99% of females are hos and sluts for what ever reason! So mastering ho and slut strategies will keep you in the game... but when you do meet a real good woman of value you will sometimes be like a fish out of water...

You dont have to believe me... I am just honest enough to admit that this woman threw me off... and i do believe if it didnt happen it wasnt meant to..
 

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DonGorgon said:
In 2008 99% of females are hos and sluts for what ever reason! So mastering ho and slut strategies will keep you in the game... but when you do meet a real good woman of value you will sometimes be like a fish out of water...

You dont have to believe me... I am just honest enough to admit that this woman threw me off... and i do believe if it didnt happen it wasnt meant to..
WTF, The title of this thread says it all "Falling in love with a stranger". Stranger being the operative word here. You dont know her. How do you know she is a woman of value. I think the worst thing in the world is stranger oneitis
 

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DonGorgon said:
I currently have 3 F buddies, all in college 20, 19, and 22 years old... they are cool but are mainly only good for F'ing... I also have 2 new plates that I am working... They do nothing for me emotionally and that is what i now crave...
You sit beside some chick, you 'fell in love with' for 6 minutes not being able to say anything??

:confused:


Can someone explain this to me better? This does not add up.
 

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Alle_Gory said:
You sit beside some chick, you 'fell in love with' for 6 minutes not being able to say anything??

:confused:


Can someone explain this to me better? This does not add up.
lol.... I froze but it matters no longer cause I got a new 20 year old cutie on my team who i didnt instantly fall in love with so all is well...:cool:
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It's always easier to approach a stranger. Just my personal opinion.
 

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DonGorgon said:
Its funny until it happens to you:eek:
it has happened to me. and "it's not funny." i laughed cuz your thread seems to be all over the place.
 

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I can vouch for DonGorgon. I've known him here as a long time poster. He doesn't pull no punches. He's very blunt in his advice and being true to his colours, he wasn't afraid to come in here and post this.

He is the furthest thing from an AFC. However like the best of us, he suffers from what I call AFC tendacies. I know I've done it at times. When you think about it, it makes sense psychologically. We've been programmed since childhood to believe in this monogamy crap. We've been basically training our brain & creating habits for 20+ years, you can't realistically expect to reverse this magically with your knew found DJ knowledge.

I was having this duel with this hot chich who knew game and she kept saying, you can't play a playa but I disagree. I've seen cons get conned, I've seen it all.

My point is, Don can be a player and fall for a chick that he's never really even talked to much, its called pedastooling. You should all know better, love isn't logical. If it was, we wouldn't be stupid enough to fall in love with a women or vice versa.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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next time u see her just picture her with a weiner. that oughta get rid of ur butterflies.
 

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MacAvoy said:
I can vouch for DonGorgon. I've known him here as a long time poster. He doesn't pull no punches. He's very blunt in his advice and being true to his colours, he wasn't afraid to come in here and post this.

He is the furthest thing from an AFC. However like the best of us, he suffers from what I call AFC tendacies. I know I've done it at times. When you think about it, it makes sense psychologically. We've been programmed since childhood to believe in this monogamy crap. We've been basically training our brain & creating habits for 20+ years, you can't realistically expect to reverse this magically with your knew found DJ knowledge.

I was having this duel with this hot chich who knew game and she kept saying, you can't play a playa but I disagree. I've seen cons get conned, I've seen it all.

My point is, Don can be a player and fall for a chick that he's never really even talked to much, its called pedastooling. You should all know better, love isn't logical. If it was, we wouldn't be stupid enough to fall in love with a women or vice versa.

Great post, you were accurate on all observations, and thanks for the good charactor reference too!!!

I think I am often too blunt and too real and it scares some people , i tend to forget that there are many around who prefer the comfortable blindness of ignorance especially when it comes to radically contrary issues that jump out of the box labeled the status-quo... I dont require agreement just and i dont seek to change your mind about the beliefs that keep you comfortable.
 

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DonGorgon said:
So right... there are so many simple things i should have done and said.. but.. i froze like ....

To be honest 90% of my best successful interactions with women have come from them initiating or choosing me first... It seems like when i choose them first i fail more often.. oh and i am not a hint taker , i can only deal well with straight forward clear communication which women seldom do...LOL
Ditto....the same here. You have to remind yourself that you're human, learn from your mistakes and move on.
 

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Ever thought that when your mind goes blank and you dont have any routines and openers to say, that it is your gut telling you to be "Real" with this girl.

You're far from an AFC and you know this. I call that feeling presence.
 

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Taste said:
Ever thought that when your mind goes blank and you dont have any routines and openers to say, that it is your gut telling you to be "Real" with this girl.

You're far from an AFC and you know this. I call that feeling presence.
INteresting interpretation my fellow UK'er
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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