"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The worst closer in the business

intel200

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Guys,

I seem to be the WORST closer in the business. Since a young man (im 25) I could get a girl's phone number and have her interested for the first conversation or two, but mostly only girls looking to "settle down" seem to have been interested in taking it further. I mean, I have been stood up too many times to count. I have been avoided. What are some common reasons a guy will be pretty good at getting the phone number and initial interest, and then totally lose it on the first conversation onward? What are women looking for on that first conversation? What causes them to stand you up?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I'm Joe Dirt

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You have to demonstrate higher value, so avoid any usual conversation topics, and also you have to make her feel comfortable to be with you.

Some girls, even if they like you, won't show up because they don't feel they can trust you to see you one on one.

Another reason could be that you only had 1 conversational thread, and now that topic has been exhausted and she feels like there is nothing you two would have to talk about, and that would be uncomfortable for her.

I think mostly its the trust issue though. If you only met her for a few minutes and you have no commonalities like mutual friends, aquaintances, etc. then she has no idea if you are some sort of stalker, serial killer, or whatever. You have to build a bond quickly and get her comfort level up.
 

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There are also many women who give out #s because they don't want to say "no." My sister for example, gave out our home # (damn her) to a guy she had absolutely no intention on hooking up with for any reason.
 

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Call me conceited, but I’m always shocked and dumbfounded when I call a girl and she flakes. :D
 
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