"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Whole Emotional Tampon Thing

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Do you think i handled this well in not becoming an emotional tampon?

her: im frustrated
her: my bf never calls me or msgs me
her: im too scared to talk to him about it
me: slap him around abit teach him a lesson just joking
her: he only calls me for one thing
me: seems like a good guy lol (in a sarcastic sort of way)

do you think i handled this well?

and what does this mean when a chick that somewhat likes you tells you about her bf troubles does this mean im definetly in the friends zone? or is she hinting on breaking up with him and subtley letting me know?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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her: im frustrated
me: yeah? wanna do something fun?

her: my bf never calls me or msgs me
me: dump him

her: im too scared to talk to him about it
me: sounds like you two don't have a good relationship then... dump him.

her: he only calls me for one thing
me: i would do that too, only you wouldn't have to be affraid to talk to me about it ;)


Just kidding.. You have to remember though, that anything you say, to make her relationship work for her, is putting yourself in the friendship zone.
Women talking about bad relationships are usually not hinting on breaking up with him. At least not to get it off with you. Try to avoid topics like these and change to convo into something else as fast as you can.
 

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She has a boyfriend...so pursuing her is a waste of your time. Even if she does cheat on her boyfriend with you...why do you want someone who cheats? She'd cheat on you as well, ya know.
 

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Pursuing her is not a waste of time.. just make sure shes not the only girl your trying to get.

Someone here once said (wayyy long time ago) that girls are like monkeys, they swing from tree to tree. Meaning they wont dump their boyfriend til they have another one lined up.

Also, just because a girl cheats on someone doesnt mean that she will cheat on you. Its not her fault that her guy wasn't fulfilling her needs and she looked somewhere else to find something better. But if shes some skanky girl with a history of cheating, then wyldfire is definatly right.
 

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you: sounds like your not getting what you need in this relation ship. you know a girl like you must have dreams and desires. am i rite?

you: it is a MANs job (point to self) to see that his WOMAN (point to her) gets........EXACTLY what she needs.

you: tell me what do YOU want most out of life / relationships

her: blah blah

you: associate what she says with your self.

some basic SS for you there.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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her: im frustrated
her: my bf never calls me or msgs me
her: im too scared to talk to him about it
me: Sounds like you just need to relax a little. (start rubbing her neck and shoulders) tell her she has alot of tension in her muscles.
her: he only calls me for one thing
me: baby, your so much more than that (while your kissing her neck and nibbling on her her) Whisper to her at this point, that she deserves better (in a subtle sexy tone.
Now your in, get to work!
 

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Ripass said:
Pursuing her is not a waste of time.. just make sure shes not the only girl your trying to get.

Someone here once said (wayyy long time ago) that girls are like monkeys, they swing from tree to tree. Meaning they wont dump their boyfriend til they have another one lined up.

Also, just because a girl cheats on someone doesnt mean that she will cheat on you. Its not her fault that her guy wasn't fulfilling her needs and she looked somewhere else to find something better. But if shes some skanky girl with a history of cheating, then wyldfire is definatly right.
This is a perfect example of why many of you guys end up with women who hurt you. Use some common sense fellas...if a girl will cheat WITH you on her boyfriend...she WILL cheat ON you with the next guy as well. If you're going to pursue girls who are trashy you WILL end up with trashy girls and you will get hurt.

This is no different than women going for guys who treat them badly. You guys do the same damn thing. Smarten up...
 

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A couple years ago, when a girl invited me to her house after knowing her maybe 2-3 times as friends. She told me stuff like "Is it true that guys with big feet have big members" or "I don't think of my boyfriend in a relationship way, I just want the physical stuff" - I knew right then she was spinning some web of trap and my crotch was saying DO HER DO HER, but my head/gut was saying "Hmm, something's wrong here" so I listened to my gut and I never did anything aggressive.

Low and behold, she stopped inviting me to her place.

Some DJs out there will say "Dude, who gives a crap, you missed out on easy booty" I say to them "Dude, if I respect myself much more than that"

When a girl's got probs in her life and she's unloading it on you before you've established a sexual relations then something is up!
 

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Macgyver said:
A couple years ago, when a girl invited me to her house after knowing her maybe 2-3 times as friends. She told me stuff like "Is it true that guys with big feet have big members" or "I don't think of my boyfriend in a relationship way, I just want the physical stuff" - I knew right then she was spinning some web of trap and my crotch was saying DO HER DO HER, but my head/gut was saying "Hmm, something's wrong here" so I listened to my gut and I never did anything aggressive.

Low and behold, she stopped inviting me to her place.

Some DJs out there will say "Dude, who gives a crap, you missed out on easy booty" I say to them "Dude, if I respect myself much more than that"

When a girl's got probs in her life and she's unloading it on you before you've established a sexual relations then something is up!
Can you elaborate a bit more on this please. It seems a little contradicting to me when I read it. For instance,
"When a girl's got probs in her life and she's unloading it on you before you've established a sexual relations then something is up"

-it sounds like what she was unloading was SEXUAL. Why wouldnt you do her if she was hinting purely at you sexually? What trap was she spinning? Thanks
 

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JesterX said:
her: im frustrated
her: my bf never calls me or msgs me
her: im too scared to talk to him about it
me: slap him around abit teach him a lesson just joking
her: he only calls me for one thing
me: seems like a good guy lol (in a sarcastic sort of way)

do you think i handled this well?
You came in with nothing and left with nothing, I fail to see how you handled this well.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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after shes done her little rant. say "but at the end of the day, I bet you still really love him"

change the subject.

or bring up an ex-girlfriend and tell a POSITIVE story bout her.

hell if ur feeling particularly naughty, use the story bout ur ex-gf to qualify or playfully disqualify the girl you're talking to :p
 

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hey,

Wyld it is not a waste of time. My girlfriend has yet to cheat on her and when I met her she just started to tear him down. I used this ******** as a sign to start going out with her.

So I did, and I am in a committed relationship (of course, he hadn't called her in over two months and he was cheating on her with some other chick).

comic_relief
 

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it is a waste of time

I have to agree with Wyld. She has a man already. I dont like when people on SS try to think of clever and wittiest pick up lines to steal someone else's girl, when they themselves will be the 1st one to post on here about how all women are b*tches, f all women, they cheat.

When a girl unloads her problems onto you, she really doesnt want you to solve them, she just wants you to listen. You should not be on the subject of other guys for that long, even if youre just friends. Captain-save-a-ho plays the friend role, volunteering to do all types of yardwork and pay for bills. He has no game whatsoever, and hes quick to hate on real macks, talking about how good he could treat you if you were with him and how he needs to 'save' her from guys who are 'bad' for her, and trying to be real sensitve man to her. Do you really wanna be captain-save-a-hoe? Hes always thinking (and communicating with nonverbal language) that her man is no good.

What you do is this: you let her talk a little bit about her man, and how he doesnt call and how shes too scared to call. then you ask who he is and you might want to throw in something distinguising about him to make her laugh (make sure its little, youre not trying to play her man down).

ex her: my man is acting stupid right now (let her go on about what he does)
you: that football player guy who wears the tight pants sometimes. oh yeah him
she goes on again about her man.

Me: yeah you know you love him, shut up. (then switch topic)
 

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the way to do it with honor and integrity is to keep talking to her, (not exerting too much effort on to her) and let her get interested in you, then let her choose you. "do on to others as you would have them do onto you" (confucious) most of you guys wouldnt want your girl f ing another guy behind your back. And my buddy who said, 'my girl is yet to cheat' how do u know?
b/c she come tell you. How important do you think you are walking into girl's life anyway, just because you went on SS and learned some stuff about how women work, youre so important in her life that a girl is gonna stop cheating. anyway, most classy women will break up first, then get with you. if i had a girl, and somebody else better came along for her, more power to her, i would not be hurt at all. So yeah, 1 guy isnt going to change a girl, if she gave it up to you easy like that, shell give it to that next man easy like that.
 

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Theres alot of consequences for getting with a cheating girl. If she gets pregnant by another man while she is married to you, youre legally responsible for her kid. If youre not married, and the girl has 5 partners and gets pregnant, she can put anybodys name on her son's birth certificate she chooses, and make you pay child support. It is upto you, within a certain amount of time (depending on state) to prove youre not the father. and you cannot get any of your $ back once its paid. (government + child support agencies get a large cut of what you pay, women get crumbs) the government needs enough women to cheat and collect child support, otherwise organizations lose billions of dollars. If the government isnt pimping women, and we're the tricks (people paying for the sex) i dont know what is.
 
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Wyldfire said:
This is a perfect example of why many of you guys end up with women who hurt you. Use some common sense fellas...if a girl will cheat WITH you on her boyfriend...she WILL cheat ON you with the next guy as well. If you're going to pursue girls who are trashy you WILL end up with trashy girls and you will get hurt.

This is no different than women going for guys who treat them badly. You guys do the same damn thing. Smarten up...
JesusthefvckbastardChrist . . .This is only the second time I've agreed with anything the old bird has said. :D
 

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JesusthefvckbastardChrist . . .This is only the second time I've agreed with anything the old bird has said. :D
:nono:


I'll tell you all the story of Cindy and the AFC and DJ.

Cindy was doing her own thing, in a normal day.

But comes in the way of Mr. Niceguy/AFC. He proceeds to tell her she is the most beautiful woman he has seen in his life, says a lame ass joke, while Cindy doesn't know what to do except roll her eyes and say "yeah... haha"... Our friend then continues to ask for her number.

Cindy gives it to him, and goes on with her thing. And, later in the day, comes in the way of our fellow DJ. This fellow DJ does his thing, and asks for her number. Oh, and says some funny comments to which she laughs at.

Turns out the # Cindy gave to the first guy was fake, and she went out with our DJ friend! But she wasn't good enough for him! Ha!

Mr. Nice Guy made Cindy act like she did. So did our fellow DJ friend. Just because she did what she did to the first guy, doesn't mean she will do it to the DJ.

If a woman is interested in a man she WILL NOT let him go.
 

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I hate to break it to you Pendo...but if a woman will cheat once she will cheat again. And it doesn't matter who or what the guy is. There is always going to be a better prospect that she meeets and a woman who cheats is always keeping her eyes open for just that...and she continuously "trades up". Whether or not a person will cheat on someone is determined by their value system...or lack thereof. If they can find an excuse to cheat on one guy they can find an excuse to cheat on any guy. It's the same thing with men. You can tell yourself that no woman would ever cheat on a "DJ" but the fact is...they will if they have cheated on other men.
 

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Wyldfire said:
if a woman will cheat once she will cheat again.

I recommend that people not judge people until they know their situation and what kind of person they are.
:rock:


- There are a million reasons for why a woman wouldn't be faithful to a DJ. If she does, regardles of her past actions, she's out, end of story.
- Ok, you get one who hasn't cheated. There's always a first time, she could cheat on you.
- She could simply tell you that she's single, hasn't ever cheated, etc, etc. One thing is what she says, and the other is the reality.
 

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See, not everyone here is looking to settle down in a monogous relationship. If I passed up trying to get with every girl that didnt have a boyfriend, I have no idea what I would have to settle for. I cant think of a single one of my lady friends that arnt talking, or going out with a guy. Wow, a girl doesnt cheat, then she will just dump your ass when she wants something better. Whats the difference then being cheated on and dumped for something better? Both will get hurt. The problem with most guys getting hurt is that they are highschool or collage guys who are socially retarded, and cant get a girl. So they get hung up on one girl that they want, or that has showed a little interest in.

You dont fall in love when your with the person, its all psychological and self induced. You do it to yourself when your not around the person. Its the guys fault that hes sitting around thinking about some girl he wants, instead of out making that cash flow or chilling with friends, or even meeting other women. He has no life so hes making all these fantasys about some girl, then she wants something better, because she relizes hes a loser and she either cheats or dumps him. There is not a lot of women, who are hot and smart, that dont have guys already.

Just think of all them possiablities you missed. Or you could even befriend her, and she could get in a fight with her boyfriend tomorro. You never know these things. Become her damn friend, be fun and interesting and see if she will hook you up with some of her single friends. Lifes all about developing relationships, and passing up a possible (even friend-friend) relationship is just stupid.

jester: you really didnt come out of that any better then you went into it like Damage said. You could be in the friends zone, she could want to see how you act when she brings up her boyfriend, its hard to tell over the internet.

And, just because you cheated once and would cheat again doesnt mean every girl would. There is no way that you could speak for the entire female population. If she cheated before and lost someone she really loved, she could change her ways. Everyday people change because of new experiences.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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