"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"The Way of the Superior Man" - WTF?!?

Atom Smasher

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I've started reading this book because everybody says how great it is, and he starts the whole thing off with an entire chapter on how the book applies to lesbians, homos, gender-reversed relationships, and any possible combination regardless of gender/sexual proclivity.

It comes off as so watering down the application to men that further reading seems hollow.

For those who have read this book, what's your take on it. So far I'm thorougly disgusted. He makes it very clear that he's not writing it for men, but for anybody who plays the traditionally masculine role in any relationship.

It comes off as him trying to stave off previous criticism and walk the safe line.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It is a great book. Probably a more practicle version of "Mars and Venus". He certainly advocates being in one's masculine centre. For someone who is doing no fap it is very much in support of that. Worth perservering with.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
It comes off as so watering down the application to men that further reading seems hollow.

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It comes off as him trying to stave off previous criticism and walk the safe line.
That's a pretty good description. I tried reading it a couple years back in large part due to recommendations here. I just couldn't get into it. It was like the author had some decent ideas, but he tried to purposely back off a bit in order to sell it to a mass market.
 

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That's exactly the impression I have. I've going to dig a little deeper but I am so far deeply disappointed in the author.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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it's a dumb a$$ book, I couldn't finish because it was so stupid
 

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It's not too shabby, I like the parts about facing your fears, welcoming challenges, and that chapter about doing your own thing regardless of what the women in your life are feeling in that particular moment.
 

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It's not bad, remember the author does have some solid ideas, he was most likely trying not to offend the fems out there and make extra cash if his book appealed to the person who was more masculine in the relationship.

Take the book as it is and brainstorm the rest
 

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I got it on my kindle. I suppose I should have gotten the real book since it seems like it's structured as a short-chapter reference with clearly defined chapters.

I was mortified by the intro. The last place I was expecting to read feminist appeasement was here. I'll keep digging, but I'm pretty underwhelmed. His intro literally takes the wind out of his own sales and calls his credibility into question.
 
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