"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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The Waitress Pickup

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I would like to preface by saying that for most average guys like myself picking up your waitress is perhaps one of the most difficult things one can do in the world of picking up.

You never know, chances are she is just being nice to be tipped well? Very justifiable.

So I show up at one of the local pubs with my book "Making Friends and Influencing People" by Dale Carnegie. All as I came there to do was read, eat dinner and watch the hockey game playing on the big screen.

The waitress came and asked me what I wanted to drink. She immediately was showing buying signals such as tossing her hair, smiling and acting well....more flirty than they normally act.

I said that my throat was dry and I just wanted water. She said a water coming right up.

When she brought my water she told me that she had a dry throat to, I then said yeah ms. drythroat I appreciate the water, you keep smiling and I will see you in a bit.

A few minutes later she came back and asked me what I wanted, I touched her back and asked her what she would reccommend. She told me a bunch of choices and I told her that I would make my executive decision upon her return.

Later on a different waitress came by and I ordered from her, I found her very cold and distant and not very likeable.

10 minutes later, whalla, my old waitress came back and I took her by the forearm and told her that I needed to tell her something in confidence.

I told her that I liked her, alot more than the other waitress and that she has an air of positive charisma on her and that she should never lose that "she said...WOW you have made my day" I told her, I am just an honest guy who knows an allstar when he sees one.

After my meal the waitress I didnt like asked me if I wanted another drink, I told her no.

A little later the waitress I liked came by and I asked her what her name was and she told me...so I said _insert name, I have a problem, then she came closer and I took her forearm again and said, you see....I like you...I like you alot, however the other waitress she is not in your league...so what shall I do for a tip. You see if I tip you, it will be a very large tip, but if I tip her, it wont be a good tip....you see my dilemna, so who am I tipping? She smiled and said your so different, but I like you to...and yes you are tipping me.

Then she came over with the debit card machine and I said, you know we should exchange numbers because I need a positive girl like you in my life. She said...OF COURSE, then she took my business card and I asked for her number and she gave it to me.

Then she told me that she wanted me to call her and that there is something about me. She then proceeded to sit down accross from me...waitresses are NOT supposed to do this and talked to me for 5 minutes about my book, asked me if I had facebook and if she could add me....and then as she left she said I better call her. I said that I just might.

You see everyone...the world is yours....your world is what you make of it.

If your calm, cool and know how to talk, girls will love you.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Glad your getting out there and working on developing your game.

You projected WAYYYY too much interest in this girl right off the bat. Chances of anything happening here are very slim unless she was already physically attracted to you.

Also your whole bit about who to tip was pretty cheesy bro. Not trying to hate, just being honest.

This girl is a professional flirt; she gets paid to flirt with you and make you feel good, just like the stripper, the clerk at your favorite clothing store or any other girl in the service industry.

The key to getting hired guns is to separate yourself from the pack of chumps that hit on them each and every day.

You didn't do this, but I commend you on starting to improve this area of your life.


I'd be surprised if she is actually interested.






PIMP
 

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PIMP...I'll make this happen. Definitely keep you posted on here though.

My whole game is making girls feel good about themselves in an alpha way and being the most damn unique thing theyve met.
 

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I've found it's extremely rare to really turn a waitress into a girlfriend. Strippers, on the other hand, are more available than you think, but it takes master game, your being impervious to jealousy (and time) to get them truly chasing you. It's worth the effort. Ever have a girl stand up after sex and say "Don't I have a great ass?" while posing naked in your room?
 

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I miss read your post Bigneil....no I have never had a stripper say that, wouldnt want a stripper anyhow.

Ive had girls say lots of stuff to me, but they werent posing...which is good because I wouldnt be a good sketch artist anyways.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I like how you had the balls to do that, but still, telegraphing so much interest from the get-go can be harmful.

Keep in mind that she may have just been nice to you so you can supplicate and tip more. You need to make sure she's ACTUALLY interested in you, more so than your Visa.

What makes you stand out with hired guns like waitresses? Don't be like the AFC's who leer.
 

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I will let you guys know how this goes. She did give me her number though and took a great deal of interest in me as well. My first thoughts were that it was going to be the pubs phone number which it wasnt! So that is a good sign.

You guys are right though, it is a low percentage play being so forward like that to a highered gun like a waitress who is paid to flirt and supplicate and get you to tip.

However life is about having fun and having fun is what I do best.
 

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People say they wouldn't want a stripper, but how many (of the hottest) strippers have they honestly had fall in love with them?

To be honest I used to think I didn't want one too. But that's like saying "I wouldn't want a Playboy playmate".

Some of them (though rare) are sweet girls. Mine walked up to me and I took one look in her eyes and my life was never the same again. I hope everyone finds out how great it is to have the hottest women chasing you. I just keep my mouth shut and she says all the things I would say if I didn't want to sound AFC.
 

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Young Stallion said:
I will let you guys know how this goes. She did give me her number though and took a great deal of interest in me as well. My first thoughts were that it was going to be the pubs phone number which it wasnt! So that is a good sign.
Prediction: Fail

Never hit on the help. It f*cks up your game. :nono:
 

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Zarky: Although I do know where you are coming from and appreciate it...I will say that I'll hit on whoever I want whenever I want.

Everyone:
I think we focus to much on rules and game when we should be focusing more on self confidence, people skills and making ourselves a force both on the inside and on the outside. That is what girls want, not some dude whose spent his adult life studying the rules of what to say and not to say....which is where I started out long long ago on my journey.

One day I shall post a complete report on developing ones outer self and inner self in a way where they can become attractive to women they meet just because damn....they are there.

I went from being someone with alot of issues both physically and emotionally as a teenager, but I became an extremely confident, charismatic adult who is also alot classier looking, buffer looking and stronger looking than I ever was growing up.

After reading alot of posts I do conclude one thing though, the type of girl I go for and have alot of success with appears to be much different than the type of girl that most posters go for:

Most posters seem to want: Hot Barstars who are all fun and no substance, party girls who are easy lays but high mantenance girls who are snobby....looks....looks.....looks...looks....looks seem to be bar none the order of the day for most posters.

Girls I GO FOR: Soft, sweet, sensitive, caring, girls you would find volunteering or the girl next door, mostly quiet and deeply intellectual and introspective. I have always been attracted to this I seem to know how to cause attraction with these types very easily. I do also care about looks and my brain automatically makes this type very attractive both physically and personality wise.....so long as they have a good body, and nice soft innocent pleasant facial features. I get an energy from these girls, a connection if you will that tells me that they want me and that I want them...its my radar and its a good one.

I believe my new waitress friend to be one of these types.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Young Stallion said:
Girls I GO FOR: Soft, sweet, sensitive, caring, girls you would find volunteering or the girl next door, mostly quiet and deeply intellectual and introspective. I have always been attracted to this I seem to know how to cause attraction with these types very easily. I do also care about looks and my brain automatically makes this type very attractive both physically and personality wise.....so long as they have a good body, and nice soft innocent pleasant facial features. I get an energy from these girls, a connection if you will that tells me that they want me and that I want them...its my radar and its a good one.
Mostly the same for me...any special tips in that arena? lol
 

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Subbed for updates. Good job though: not many people would attempt a pick-up on a waitress. Oddly though I've found that lots of waitresses are dying for a tumble as many people brush them off right away as per some of the posts written above.
 

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they just being nice. She cant be mean to customers like that or she will get fired. She wants more tip
 

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they just being nice. She cant be mean to customers like that or she will get fired. She wants more tip

women are women. what, you think girls turn off their hormones when they punch the clock? of course theyre paid to be nice, it doesn't mean they are pretending to like everyone. have you people never worked retail or at a restaurant before? the girls are always talking about customers they want to bang.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Young Stallions said:
Zarky: Although I do know where you are coming from and appreciate it...I will say that I'll hit on whoever I want whenever I want.

Everyone:
I think we focus to much on rules and game when we should be focusing more on self confidence, people skills and making ourselves a force both on the inside and on the outside. That is what girls want, not some dude whose spent his adult life studying the rules of what to say and not to say....which is where I started out long long ago on my journey.
While I agree hitting on waitresses is probably not the best idea or most effective course of action, I like your attitude. Fvck the rules. Somebody's doing that girl, might as well be you.
 

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Apologies to all those who condemned my waitress pickup.

I called her today.......and.....

She gave me a fake number!
 

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Young Stallion said:
Apologies to all those who condemned my waitress pickup.

I called her today.......and.....

She gave me a fake number!
Not surprised. I admire your moxie, though would it be something I would do in that way? No...too cheesey for me. But to each his own.

Believe it or not I picked up a waitress who was working there while going to college about 12 years ago. Great girl. Was the love of my life until I met my present day gf. All I did was talk to her in a normal way and ask for her number when I was leaving. I'll never forget what she said. "Here is your bill, but what you REALLY want is written on the back" with a sexy little smile on her face.

Ahhhh yes.
 

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The EASIEST successes I've had at gaining the interest of women in ANY service industry (bartender-chicks, waitresses, cashiers, etc.) is by waiting...then accidentally "catching" them when they're getting off work and are leaving the place.

Usually, by that time, whatever reaction they give me, "yay or nay" will be their most HONEST one.
 

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Young Stallion said:
Zarky: ......I will say that I'll hit on whoever I want whenever I want.
...
One day I shall post a complete report on developing ones outer self and inner self in a way where they can become attractive to women they meet just because damn....they are there.
You might want to actually learn something from your elders here first.

Girls I GO FOR: Soft, sweet, sensitive, caring, girls you would find volunteering or the girl next door, mostly quiet and deeply intellectual and introspective.
...
I believe my new waitress friend to be one of these types.
Or not.

oxford comma said:
worst poster. please stop giving advice on here.
:rolleyes: oxford comma, you are officially an idiot.

Young Stallion said:
She gave me a fake number!
Zarky proven right again. At least the OP was able to admit that he got hoodwinked.

PROTIP: Listen and learn before posting. If you're under 30, you know nothing about women. Lurk more.

This was truly a hilarious thread for me. The OP ignores all my (and other experienced peoples') advice and gets what he thinks is a waitress's number. Basking in the glow of his perceived victory against all odds, he goes on and on about himself and how awesome he is and how he should now advise men on how to successfully pickup women. And then he realizes she gave him a fake number. Truly funny and insightful into the immature males' brain. Thank you OP.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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