"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The waiting game. Its my move, and Im stuck.

SpazzAttackk

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Recently met this girl through my sister, brought her to a party and we hit it off really well. Of course I made an ass of myself on a couple occasions while drunk but it didnt really ruin anything.

We went back to my sisters place and we talked a bit, she gave me a kiss.. or 2. Not making out, nothing like that. Just like a good night kiss. Felt some boobies and it was off to bed. Next morning (Nothing happened, this is my sisters tiny ass basement) we talked a bit, I asked if I can see her again and she said sure and to add her on facebook. I waited a day before adding her and she took 5 days before accepting.

How long should I wait before sparking up a conversation? Normally id wait 2 days but she already waited 5, and I dont want her to lose interest. And stupid me never got her number.

DJs, how long should I wait before I move my pawn? Shes playing hard to get right now, this info coming from my sister. But shes interested.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Mauser96 said:
I take it you and her are fairly young? Personally, I really don't play games, nor like having them played.

I would ask for her phone number, PHONE her, and ask her out for coffee or a drink.

And I would do it today. If she declined, with no counter, I would NOT delete her from FB, simply ignore her. (Deleting her would be a bit immature and show her you are "hurt". By simply sloughing it off and ignoring her, you gives the impression you have OPTIONS and it was no big deal)

The offer has been made
She declined
She knows now you are interested and how to reach you
Bang other chicks.
100% Agree with above ^^^^

Regardless of age games will be played by women. I am 26 and have been hooking up with a lot of 18-22 year olds. I learned that just being straight up blunt gets you what you want. Now I am not saying be up her a$$ and call/text her everyday but if she took 5 days to accept you who cares? Be Indifferent. Send her a message and be straight up.

For the younger "college" type girls you gotta push to seal the deal right away. If she is interested she will go for it. If not, you just saved a lot of time. I hooked up with plenty of younger girls and then they go off the map for no reason at all.

Remember one thing young girls SUCK at answering/talking on the phone. I would FB message her, ask her out straight up in a flirty fun way. If she agrees say cool give me your number and I'll call you when I am close or w.e.

The key is to act like YOU DONT CARE IF SHE ACCEPTS OR NOT!
 

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Yeah shes in college, shes pretty independent too. Ill hit her up on facebook and see where it goes from there. Ill get her number for sure
 

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SpazzAttackk said:
Yeah shes in college, shes pretty independent too. Ill hit her up on facebook and see where it goes from there. Ill get her number for sure

Remember bro these college girls don't want a serious thing. 90% Its there first time away from home, they want to party (drink and fcuk) and they don't want to be reminded of parents. If you get all serious and committed and start pulling all these romantic dates out she is gonna RUN for the hills.

This is speaking from personal experience very very recently over the past few months dealing with college girls.

My best success with laying them is keeping your image related to a fun time. Keep things sexual, light, and flirty. Not over the top sexual but flirty sexual.

Also remember it falls 2 ways. Either the broad is into you and all this works, or she isn't into you and all this fails. Either way weed out the girls that you need to invest time to sleep with because TRUST ME there are HUNDREDS of other on campus that are hot and be willing to fcuk you after a few drinks.

GL, keep it light and fun. enjoy yourself broooo
 

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Forget about days and rules, start asking her for a meetup. If she gives bųllṣhit excuses with no counteroffers, it's over and she lost interest or never had it. Take it easy, very easy, on texting, and see where it goes.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Also, to add to what everyone else is saying, ALWAYS GO FOR THE NUMBER. It sucks to have to chase after a girl on FB later and get it, so make sure you do this up front from now on. Good luck!
 

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I ended up messaging her asking how her new apartment is. Told her I should come visit sometime and give her a house warming gift. No reply after I said the house warming part. Oh well

Another flake. Mind you facebook says she hasnt even read the message yet. Low IL levels possibly
 

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SpazzAttackk said:
I ended up messaging her asking how her new apartment is. Told her I should come visit sometime and give her a house warming gift. No reply after I said the house warming part. Oh well

Another flake. Mind you facebook says she hasnt even read the message yet. Low IL levels possibly
Aaaaaaand you didn't ask for the number because....?

So, instead, you told her you need to come by and visit her, without getting the number. Instead of wasting time trying to start a conversation about something you didn't really care about, you should have just said "hey, great meeting you the other day - send me your number when you get the chance, would love to get to know more about you." And that's it. It's really that simple, but the way you're going about things is making it complicated.
 

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Harry Wilmington said:
Aaaaaaand you didn't ask for the number because....?

So, instead, you told her you need to come by and visit her, without getting the number. Instead of wasting time trying to start a conversation about something you didn't really care about, you should have just said "hey, great meeting you the other day - send me your number when you get the chance, would love to get to know more about you." And that's it. It's really that simple, but the way you're going about things is making it complicated.

Yeah thinking about it now, I did **** up. Tips on salvaging? I believe I can salvage it. Really dont wanna **** this one up

I was actually gonna go in for the number. I was gonna make a little conversation first. If she DOES reply, ill kick off with what you said. If she doesnt.. well. My fault
 

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Yeah thinking about it now, I did **** up. Tips on salvaging? I believe I can salvage it. Really dont wanna **** this one up

I was actually gonna go in for the number. I was gonna make a little conversation first. If she DOES reply, ill kick off with what you said. If she doesnt.. well. My fault

Simple. Let her read her message. Not everyone checks FB every minute of there life lol. If she replies...GO FOR THE NUMBER.

Dude..no gifts lol....if she replies, once again, just say what harry said, and go for the damn number!!!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Mannn when I said house warming gift I was throwing an innuendo out there! But yeah the number is my priority right now. Ill let you guys know how it goes. If theres no reply by the end of today, no biggie. Its new years almost. Nights of debauchery are near.

But the main thing right now, its salvageable right?
 

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Well no luck, no replies. I took your advice though and I have a date and 2 possible others set up for the holidays with some other girls. I used the advice on what to say and they gave in so easily. Thanks to SoSuave, Ive been told I know how to ask a girl out!

^ LOL Sounds like im trying to do and infomercial for you guys
 

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You aren't stuck because you have your presence of mind(the decency to come on a site like this and improve yourself). Which alone is more valuable than any girl worth your reach.
 
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