"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The virgin catch 22?

M2k961

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Here's my problem:

How am I suppose to get around the catch 22 in which you have to know what you're doing in order to get laid, but need to get laid in order to know what you're doing? I am virtually surrounded by girls that I feel i can fcuk if I only KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING. It's a vicious cycle and I'm not finding any bold women who will fcuk me without caring that I'm a virgin and don't know what I'm doing. Women want to be with a man that's experienced. Does anyone have advice? I don't think I can just lie my way into bed with someone, I mean, won't it be pretty obvious that I don't know what I'm doing?

I can't be the only one who's going through this!

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Lie and then just blame it on the alchohol.....

I mean, by the time she figures out you have no idea what your doing its pretty much to late, your getting some regardless!

Okay, thats probably the least moral advice i'v given so far, but what the hell....you're picking up in a bar!

There's a quote from Alexander Pushkin,

"Better the lies that exhault us then 10,000 truths"

Hamno
(Who dispite being a Naval Officer who used to tell girls that he was a travelling arts student instead of a sailor while in foriegn ports)
 

DjDreamer

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Originally posted by M2k961
I mean, won't it be pretty obvious that I don't know what I'm doing?
Geez... relax it's just sex... it will do you no good to conjure up self fulfilling prophesies...
 

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You can either:

Fake it til you make it; never bring it up and lie when asked until you actually get somewhere, and just... do what seems natural when you do. If you cant then maybe say AT THE TIME and not earlier that you might like a little guidance, cos you'll be there and they'll be hot and it's in their interest

Or, you can just confidently say so when it comes up and not apologise or worry about it. The only women who really have a problem with it are slvts who don't even pretend to have any genuine human interest, and immature women who are still living in their adolescence and aren't very mature about sex. You don't want either of those types.

I'd just lie. Who cares if they figure it out at the time? Unless you go sticking it in her ear, she aint exactly gonna stop the presses just to tease, she wants it too. Just TRY not to blow too quick. THEN when she asks afterwards you can tell her, heh.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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no, it won't be obvious. the only thing i would recommend is...this would have helped me on my first time too

just try slipping on a condom once to get the hang of it...other than that, just make sure you get enough for foreplay, and just enjoy the moment ...run your hands all over her, kiss her on her neck, breath next to her ear...just turn that freak on

when i was lonely and not getting out a long while ago, i used to watch a ton of porn ...and trust me, it helps ...watch some lesbian porn, and watch how they lick tits, and other than that, just do it man, the rest should actually be instinct, because we were born for it...sure it takes practice to get "better" but it's just sex, not a performance, if she really likes you enough to sleep with you, i doubt she'll be judging much
 
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