The Velocity Of Chad

[BaronOfHair]

Inspired by the following conversation https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/what-happened-to-today-women.284338/#post-3163275

Physical attractiveness on a man has drawbacks we rarely acknowledge

https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/greater-la/la-male-actors-tiananmen-square-oc/handsome-bubble

If you're pretty, be prepared to regularly demonstrate you've got substance to back that up with

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Inspired by the following conversation https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/what-happened-to-today-women.284338/#post-3163275

Physical attractiveness on a man has drawbacks we rarely acknowledge

https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/greater-la/la-male-actors-tiananmen-square-oc/handsome-bubble

If you're pretty, be prepared to regularly demonstrate you've got substance to back that up with

There is NO downside to being handsome (other than Gay guys hitting on one).

This…
‘“also experienced inappropriate interactions with adults, such as when he was working at the front desk of a tennis club in high school and a middle-aged woman came in and flirted with him.”

That someone would even register and remember something so banal makes me suspect this whole article.


One does not need to ‘demonstrate substance’ if one is GL. People automatically assume the best in a GL person. Halo effect.

Being GL is a superpower.
There really is no downside.

 

[Thebestthereeveris]

There is NO downside to being handsome (other than Gay guys hitting on one).

This…
‘“also experienced inappropriate interactions with adults, such as when he was working at the front desk of a tennis club in high school and a middle-aged woman came in and flirted with him.”

That someone would even register and remember something so banal makes me suspect this whole article.


One does not need to ‘demonstrate substance’ if one is GL. People automatically assume the best in a GL person. Halo effect.

Being GL is a superpower.
There really is no downside.

I can think of one. when your good looking things come easy to you. that isnt masculinity. Masculine men value things that are hard to achieve. Being good looking amongst real men where thats the only thing you have is perceive as feminien and will not garner any respect. Now of course you can be goodlooking and work hard and be a badass but typically those that skated off their looks in their youth will get punished as adults if they didnt cultivate any other attributes.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Being GL is a superpower

In the same way Daredevil's echoloacation/sonar is, perhaps. Just as he had to train lest he get ploughed through by his adversaries, you still have to exert the same efforts that EVERY man has to, if you're to succeed not just in dating, but life more generally. I say this as someone who, in many respects, meets the criteria of a "traditionally handsome" man

As the article linked in The OP says: Being "pretty", as a guy, often leads to other men concluding that "He ain't hard enough for the real world" and women viewing you as a probable f-ckboy/Himbo, who isn't worthy of being taken seriously

 

[Hamurabimbi]

In the same way Daredevil's echoloacation/sonar is, perhaps. Just as he had to train lest he get ploughed through by his adversaries, you still have to exert the same efforts that EVERY man has to, if you're to succeed not just in dating, but life more generally. I say this as someone who, in many respects, meets the criteria of a "traditionally handsome" man

As the article linked in The OP says: Being "pretty", as a guy, often leads to other men concluding that "He ain't hard enough for the real world" and women viewing you as a probable f-ckboy/Himbo, who isn't worthy of being taken seriously

I disagree.
If one is GL, one does not have to 'exert the same efforts that EVERY man has to,'. Life is easier. Women literally will offer sfx, even if you've just met them. People are nice to you and go out of their way to help you. Give you free things. Doors are opened at work for you.

Now, as for 'pretty' men, I really don't know. I'm coming at this from a more masculine, handsome perspective. It may well be that 'pretty' men have these challenges.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I can think of one. when your good looking things come easy to you. that isnt masculinity. Masculine men value things that are hard to achieve. Being good looking amongst real men where thats the only thing you have is perceive as feminien and will not garner any respect. Now of course you can be goodlooking and work hard and be a badass but typically those that skated off their looks in their youth will get punished as adults if they didnt cultivate any other attributes.

There are things/fields/careers that being GL doesn't matter much.
GL men can still work hard to achieve success in these fields and their looks won't really carry them.

 

[BadBoy89]

I thought the drawbacks to be good looking in Los Angeles were going to be:

"Got sexually abused by a man at 15" or
"Had to go military school at 18 to be taken seriously"

But the drawback to be good looking and sleeping with alot of hot women is having a middle aged women flirt with you?

Rock on!

 

[BaronOfHair]

I disagree

As said, I am, in many respects a traditionally/classically handsome guy, and I've known(no, not in the Biblical sense) many more like myself. Even we have parts of ourselves which are below par* that we have to overcome. To your other points: People stop being nice to attractive guys, when we stop putting the most basic efforts into ourselves. No one's smiling at me, when I walk into a restaurant wearing a rumpled T shirt covered in spaghetti stains, with my hair uncombed



*Famous example: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/rest-in-peace-val.283885/#post-3162414 When dude first arrived on the scene, derogatory remarks about his somewhat wonky teeth existed side by side with praise for his strong jaw and chiseled face

 

[BaronOfHair]

"Had to go military school at 18 to be taken seriously"

As mentioned between 2:15-2:37 https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/greater-la/la-male-actors-tiananmen-square-oc/handsome-bubble , be prepared to demonstrate that you're more than just a Himbo or a f-c-boy, if you meet the criteria for traditional/classically handsome

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My life experiences differ from yours.
I’ve never had to ‘demonstrate’ anything. Rather the opposite. People assume I’m wildly more competent than I actually am.

 

[BaronOfHair]

People assume I’m wildly more competent than I actually am.

Or you assume folks are overestimating you, when in reality, their assessment of you is less charitable than the average South Centrialian's thoughts on The LAPD are

 

[justaroundthecorner]

Being GL is a superpower.
There really is no downside.

That's untrue.

Some guys perceive you as a threat when you are young and single but already in period of interest in females (especially in the mixed pack of friends/acquaintances), only friends that may bear that are usually guys with very strong frame or looking better than you/with better social position. It usually means you will meet almost no new friends past 16-22 year of your life period.

Some guys envy your look, and even secretly dislike you for that, therefore will not want to make friends with you esp. if they look so-so near you.

Looking good is usually the forte when dealing with opposite sex, not with your own.

It may help you with some career choices but otherwise for guys it is like 30% of overall effectiveness boost vs what females get from the same level of good looks and in some situations you will be obvious target for male competition (to the point of expexting no mercy).

 

[BaronOfHair]

Some guys perceive you as a threat when you are young and single but already in period of interest in females (especially in the mixed pack of friends/acquaintances).
..

Some guys envy your look, and even secretly dislike you for that....

 

[Mike32ct]

As far as looks envy goes, I have a weird story from back in the day.

It was circa 2005, and I was much younger and a Chadlite back then. It was summertime, and I was at this bar on Sunday night which a lot of chicks frequented after the beach.

I went to the men’s room and was drying my hands when this drunk sub-5 guy approached me. He yelled, “Hey Pretty Boy. You have EVERYTHING. I have NOTHING.”

I know alcohol can certainly make people emotional, but this dude literally started to cry.

I got out of there asap.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

That's untrue.

Some guys perceive you as a threat when you are young and single but already in period of interest in females (especially in the mixed pack of friends/acquaintances), only friends that may bear that are usually guys with very strong frame or looking better than you/with better social position. It usually means you will meet almost no new friends past 16-22 year of your life period.

Some guys envy your look, and even secretly dislike you for that, therefore will not want to make friends with you esp. if they look so-so near you.

Looking good is usually the forte when dealing with opposite sex, not with your own.

It may help you with some career choices but otherwise for guys it is like 30% of overall effectiveness boost vs what females get from the same level of good looks and in some situations you will be obvious target for male competition (to the point of expexting no mercy).

Unless you’re poaching their women, guys treat GL guys well. You underestimate the halo effect.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I went to the men’s room and was drying my hands when this drunk sub-5 guy approached me. He yelled, “Hey Pretty Boy. You have EVERYTHING. I have NOTHING.”

Sounds like he peeped after you dropped trow, channeled Johnny Murata https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102915/characters/nm0000488 here

 

[justaroundthecorner]

As far as looks envy goes, I have a weird story from back in the day.

It was circa 2005, and I was much younger and a Chadlite back then. It was summertime, and I was at this bar on Sunday night which a lot of chicks frequented after the beach.

I went to the men’s room and was drying my hands when this drunk sub-5 guy approached me. He yelled, “Hey Pretty Boy. You have EVERYTHING. I have NOTHING.”

I know alcohol can certainly make people emotional, but this dude literally started to cry.

I got out of there asap.

LOL. You could reply with something like "Your NOTHING is EVERYTHING to me" Anyway, nice one.

I am high tier normie when it comes to looks. One guy told me when I was in my former workplace that other guys would pay to have my facial features (probably only chadlite thing about me as - aside of face - I am slightly below average in height and only lightly muscled) - it was still enough for me during my life to notice that e.g.
- other guys did not feel comfortable with me dancing with their girlfriends in socially permissible situations (student party, common friends group etc.;
- I was approached by gay guys several times;
- some girls thought I am gay
- I was assumed to be a player several times over period of +/- 15 years by women (which acted against my game as I was looking for LTR all the time and I am nerd at heart while I matched often with women that expected me to be the push-pull type of person, which I certainly am not and I find push-pull dynamics retarded)

 

[Manure Spherian]

Looks are an advantage. But BP lookism is bunk.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Looks are an advantage

They CAN be, initially. Unless you want to be exposed like so eventually

, it's wise to have at least an iota of depth as well

 

[Manure Spherian]

They CAN be, initially. Unless you want to be exposed like so eventually

, it's wise to have at least an iota of depth as well

Here’s my list of what attracts women, in order.

1. Psychopathy, anti-social behavior, daredevil activity, violence, criminality.
2. Status (can be money), social adroitness, popularity, being in the clique, proximity and repeated interaction (eg, work, school).
3. Looks.

Women override good looking men for the others all the time.