"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Here is the way I see things...

The VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE RICH.

That's why people lie, steal, cheat and kill.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE LIKED...

That's why people don't think for themselves and become followers, that's why people are scared of criticism and scared of being indifferent from the rest.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE LAZY.
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Instead of solving their problems people look for gurus, borrow money, dream without taking action etc...


THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE SLAVES TO THEIR MINDS AND SELL THEMSELVES SHORT...


That's why people put limitations and barriers on themselves that are created by other peoples subjective opinions. That's why people are afraid to take risks.

"If I can't do it, you can't do it either..."

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THINK THEY DESERVE SOMETHING...


This is a big one. Everyone thinks they "deserve" a hot girl, deserve a nice life etc...

Grow up people. Despite of what you see in Disney movies the simple truth is... LIFE IS NOT FAIR!!!

There is no free lunch in this world... If you want something... go get it, but you gotta be willing to do the work.


Here is my simple view on dating...

Men are to 95% attracted to a woman's looks.

Looks are subjective to women and can be enough to attract her, but ALL women (either consciously or unconsciously) are attracted to a man's money and social value.

If you want hot women, work on your looks as hard as you can, get rich, and/or befriend influencial people.

That is the truth and not some pua scam.

It used to be survival of the fittest... in our generation it's survival of the richest.

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I know I'll get flamed for this, but think rationally and tell me it isn't so...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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i completely agree until this point :
"If I can't do it, you can't do it either..."

sure there are lots of women that go after money.
but, since i'm only 17 and don't have an experience with 18+ women, from wut i watched on videos, maintaining frame the most attractive thing a guy can do. rich guys tend to get used. just like how really hot girls are sought after only for their looks.
 

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Crazy Asian said:
i completely agree until this point :
"If I can't do it, you can't do it either..."

sure there are lots of women that go after money.
but, since i'm only 17 and don't have an experience with 18+ women, from wut i watched on videos, maintaining frame the most attractive thing a guy can do. rich guys tend to get used. just like how really hot girls are sought after only for their looks.
Who gets the hottest girls in your school? Think about that.

It isn't any different in the real world...

Social Status + Money = Women

Once you realize this you are halfway there...
 

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You underestimate the value people put in a man's character and personality, which have nothing to do with money. Work on your character and personality - and money will follow, so will women.
 

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nonchalant said:
You underestimate the value people put in a man's character and personality, which have nothing to do with money. Work on your character and personality - and money will follow, so will women.
Do you think your typical high school jock that picks on the weaker has character or personality?

Yet he's popular, has followers and gets the hottest chicks.


I hate to say it, but our society's values are fvcked up.

There is a guy and a girl wanting to get in a club.

The guy is a hero. He saved a kid from a burning car wreck, is a police cop that risks his life everyday and gives his life to support his family.

The girl is a prostitute that only does drugs all day, has absolutely no morals whatsoever and steals from the men she fvcks with. HOWEVER she wears a mini skirt and got a boob job from the money she stole.

Fast forward... the girl won't have to wait in line at all to get in the club because of her fake tits and mini skirt while our "hero" has to wait in line in the cold like everyone else.

Do you still think our society puts value on character and personality?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yes. Or rather, I still think that a man's character determines his happiness/status/career/relationships.
 

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"think rationally"

I'd rather think naturally, since life is not rational.
 

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What you post has some truth to it, but it's programmed into people by the media to make them think this is what's desirable from the opposite sex. It's not hardwired.

As Crazy Asian pointed out, it's more about use than it would be genuine love.

Also life deals people different hands. So even if most guys strive to be materially successful or enlarge his circle of friends most times things don't go according to plan. Then what?

Striving to be rich can work, no doubt, but it takes considerable effort and is fake Don Juan since the object of attraction would be the material possesions for the woman.

Hence popular and wealthy musicians and Stars that have gone through many divorces. And you can also find financially successful guys on this forum looking for love.

The easier way and what in my opinion is real Don Juan is a guy that can use his His God given talents and tongue to attract a woman.

Women fall for words and things that touch her soul. That's why they like to text, read novels, write letters, have a myspace, talk on the phone, email, post on forums and chat online.

Bad boys and jerks know how to subtley talk dirty to make a woman horny.
Infact the first woman was seduced and sweet talked into disobeying God by the serpent and his cunning tongue.

You don't have to be evil but the point is you don't need financial success if you have speech craft.
 

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First off your too obsessed with money. Calm the f*** down. Is money a need too live now a days? Yes thats true.....But what you may not realize is there are broke, and even homeless pua's out there. It is not survival of the richest.

The only standard that evolution has set for you is survival period.

Evolution doesn't give a f*** about how much money you have in the bank, what car you drive, how many businesses you own. All it gives a f*** about is whether you reproduce or not. It just wants you too keep the human species alive. Hot girl or no hot girl.

Thats it.
 

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Wow, that solves every problem now.
Become rich, and the b1tches will fall over themselves over you. Hey look, if thats what floats peoples boats, flaunting cash all over the place so some ho3s will play with your peepees, cool. As for me, in a middle class existence, getting it, making sure they know their place and they have to earn things from me, etc. etc. is the game I play.

I dont have to resort to indirect prostitution to get laid. I dont remember reading in the DJ bible to have cash, flaunt and use it to get laid.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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ChrizZ said:
Do you think your typical high school jock that picks on the weaker has character or personality?

Yet he's popular, has followers and gets the hottest chicks.


I hate to say it, but our society's values are fvcked up.

There is a guy and a girl wanting to get in a club.

The guy is a hero. He saved a kid from a burning car wreck, is a police cop that risks his life everyday and gives his life to support his family.

The girl is a prostitute that only does drugs all day, has absolutely no morals whatsoever and steals from the men she fvcks with. HOWEVER she wears a mini skirt and got a boob job from the money she stole.

Fast forward... the girl won't have to wait in line at all to get in the club because of her fake tits and mini skirt while our "hero" has to wait in line in the cold like everyone else.

Do you still think our society puts value on character and personality?
Have you ever a lot to learn.

I was a jock in high school and I never picked on weaker kids nor do I recall any of my jock friends having done so. Sure it happens but most jocks just aren’t the bullying airheads that are so often depicted in some movies and television shows.

Actually, in direct contradiction to your assumptions of no character or personality, the more popular kids, those in the “in” crowd get there by having character and personality and social skills. The dork kids that don’t fit in typically have poor social skills, and have personalities that are a little hard to feel comfortable with.

Talk about fvcked up values. You’re all into thinking that police are somehow heroes. What a load of crap. Here locally, early Thanksgiving morning, the police, in a obviously well thought out operation, raided homeless encampments, forcing hundreds of people out into the rain. That is your heroes sh!ting on the lowest of the low. I’m sure if you look into it, most police are of the jock bullying type that you so despise. What do you think happens to them? The grow up, become police officers, and continue in their bullying ways.

Have you met any prostitutes lately? All the ones that I see walking up and down the streets waiting for their “dates” all look to be strung out junkies. The top hot spots around town aren’t about to give them preferential treatment. More likely they’ll just call up your hero policeman to do their dirty work, to chase her off so as not to scare away their more classy customers.
 

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Chriz, didn't you bang alot of girls last year or so? Without being rich?

Or were all those field reports a product of imagination
 

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Highschool girls are labelled as "highschool girls" because they go for social status over everything. Things change after highschool, for the most part.
 

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I'm sorry but, I gotta disagree with some of this.

ChrizZ said:
Here is the way I see things...

The VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE RICH.

That's why people lie, steal, cheat and kill.

This is not necesarily true. I've lived in the ghetto before when, I was younger. People weren't killing and stealing to become "rich". Some people robbed people because, they needed money to pay the rent. Or sell dope to provide food for their family and ect. Alot of people go to the extreme to support themselves and family in poor conditions.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE LIKED...

That's why people don't think for themselves and become followers, that's why people are scared of criticism and scared of being indifferent from the rest.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE LAZY.
..

Instead of solving their problems people look for gurus, borrow money, dream without taking action etc...


THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE SLAVES TO THEIR MINDS AND SELL THEMSELVES SHORT...


That's why people put limitations and barriers on themselves that are created by other peoples subjective opinions. That's why people are afraid to take risks.

"If I can't do it, you can't do it either..."

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THINK THEY DESERVE SOMETHING...


This is a big one. Everyone thinks they "deserve" a hot girl, deserve a nice life etc...

Grow up people. Despite of what you see in Disney movies the simple truth is... LIFE IS NOT FAIR!!!

Which, Is why you work for your success

There is no free lunch in this world... If you want something... go get it, but you gotta be willing to do the work.


Here is my simple view on dating...

Men are to 95% attracted to a woman's looks.

Looks are subjective to women and can be enough to attract her, but ALL women (either consciously or unconsciously) are attracted to a man's money and social value.

If you want hot women, work on your looks as hard as you can, get rich, and/or befriend influencial people.

That is the truth and not some pua scam.

It used to be survival of the fittest... in our generation it's survival of the richest.

I don't see why some of you guys think you need to look good and be rich to get women. You dont!! Yes, girls will go after a good looking guy or a guy with alot of cash. But, what do these "rich" AFC's have to offer? I've seen plenty of good looking women with losers, ugly men, fat men, and guys with no money. Why? Because, of their personality and how they act!!

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I know I'll get flamed for this, but think rationally and tell me it isn't so...
 

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Good sh*t, OP.

We should have a new page where we just put game philosophy and wisdom. Just a one stop convenient place where we can look at it for inspiration.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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ChrizZ I thought you would know a little better than this. Take a look at the types of people who attract women. There are lots of 'styles' that work for poor guys. There are also lots of rich guys who get girls, but then they cheat on them because they aren't exciting.

It's not about openers or that sh!t either. It's not what all these pickup 'gurus' sell. It's about who the guys are. If they make a woman FEEL they win, regardless of everything else. Status and money is just one way to do this.
 

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speakeasy said:
We should have a new page where we just put game philosophy and wisdom. Just a one stop convenient place where we can look at it for inspiration.
We do, it's called the tips forum.
 

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Having money gives security and the fact of KNOWING you can spend some without having to worry how am I going to pay for something
 

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Good observations man, I like what you're saying.

Money, power, and looks aren't the be-all end-all but they certainly help.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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