"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The Unintentional Field Report

Kailex

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Alright, I had a much longer post set up with the explanation of this evening for 4th of July and it erased itself.

Here's the shorter version.

HB-8, that's 40 years old, attends a BBQ with a bunch of fellow co-workers. Other single thirties, hit on her for most of the afternoon. I was just there for beer and fireworks. She comes over to me, starts talking to me... I'm laid back.

We work together some times, but I never knew her age. She voluntarily gives it up to which i respond:

"Really... 40? Wow..."

She seemed to expect some comment about how good she looked for her age."

"...I thought you didn't look a day under 45."

She seemed shocked but laughed.
Night continues, I'm subconsciously dropping neg-hits and then kino. I thought this was normal as I WASN'T TRYING to get with her. I was just thinknig: Co-Workers = Friendly.

Apparently, SHE didn't.
And it didn't hit me til I was talking to her about how I love rollercoasters but I'm afraid of heights and said she'd love it if I called her so we could go together next weekend.

THAT'S when it hit me that all the neg-hits, C&F, Kino had her invested, specially since I wasn't trying. She inputed her phone into mine and pressed Send so she could have it.

At this point, I blatantly realized what was happening and tried to pull away from the situation. That made it WORSE.
She was even MORE into me because of that.

Now, the double whammy of single mom (kid's 17) and co-worker were what were keeping me from realizing what was going on. I truly wasn't interested. At the end of the night she told me she had a great time (wtf, this wasn't a date) and leaned in for a hug and as I pulled back, she gave me a kiss.

Great.

Now, you might be asking, what's the point of this thread... it's basically for me to recognize that even though I wasn't trying... I was subconsciously laying down the DJ field tactics and it worked to a certain degree. Other men were trying too hard to talk to her and get her number, but here I was, not even TRYING and she gave me the number. Had I truly pushed this further, she would have ended up at my apartment with her ankles wrapped around my neck.

Secondary point of this thread is to discuss with the other Mature Men in this forum: Has this happened to you? Have you become the "victim" of unknowingly displaying DJ tools even though you haven't tried and what results has it garnered foryou?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I went out with a cougar several years ago when I was about 35... I think she lied about her age and was probably late forties, but was pushing mid forties.

I was not really trying anything with her. She made comments about me not commenting her on her appearance and crap like that. I was cordial throughout the night, laid back and was not totally into the experience. She looked pretty good for her age.

Wound up drunk back at her apartment and did the deed half a$$ed due to being so drunk.

Disinterest works wonders that is for sure. It seems to work especially well on those that are declining in their value and know it!

Later on I went back again with this psycho nut and she showed her a$$ to the bar staff and left all pissed. This is when I started opening my eyes to what was out there. The older women seem to have the majority of issues from my experience or it could be that the older I get I start to see more stuff.
 

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Kailex said:
Night continues, I'm subconsciously dropping neg-hits and then kino. I thought this was normal as I WASN'T TRYING to get with her. I was just thinknig: Co-Workers = Friendly.
Yes, after a few years of consciously practicing c&f, one starts to do it habitually - with results that are oftentimes unwanted.
I do believe that you resisted wisely - those flings with "older women at the office" rarely end well, take it from me.
I used to tell them that I had a fiance "back home".

At least, back in the day, a guy could get a BJ in the stationary room. I am not sure that stationary rooms still exist do they ?
 

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jophil28 said:
Yes, after a few years of consciously practicing c&f, one starts to do it habitually - with results that are oftentimes unwanted.
I do believe that you resisted wisely - those flings with "older women at the office" rarely end well, take it from me.
I used to tell them that I had a fiance "back home".

At least, back in the day, a guy could get a BJ in the stationary room. I am not sure that stationary rooms still exist do they ?

What's a stationary room?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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ThunderMaverick said:
What's a stationary room?
Opps, I meant "stationery" (sp) room where various paper supplies were stacked on shelves - invoice blanks, order forms and printer paper and so on.
It was a small room like a large closet and often had a convenient lock on the door.
 

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Kailex said:
Secondary point of this thread is to discuss with the other Mature Men in this forum: Has this happened to you? Have you become the "victim" of unknowingly displaying DJ tools even though you haven't tried and what results has it garnered foryou?
Yeah I do it naturally and when it's unintentional, it can get me some unwanted results. Last time, I got a girl so keen that she kept calling me late at night on weekends asking how I was and what I was up to. Then she came to visit my mother (her mum & mine are acquaintances) a few times to find out more about me...

All because we caught up for a drink one time with a few other friends and I was teasing, flirting & kinoing her and getting her to talk about herself a lot without realising what I was really doing.

Other times, it's not so bad. I've unintentionally done the same to a few bangable older women, and when they got to the game-on stage, I realised what I was doing, shrugged and thought "oh what the hell!" and went for the full ride.

Rarely that I managed to game attractive young girls (my real targets) unintentionally, but the few times it's happened, it was quite memorable.
 

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For the record, stationery rooms still exist, we have one in our office. Glad to be of service.
Haven't had a bj in it though...
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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