The Typical Modern Married Couple

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Thankfully not me .. haha .. I would just tell my wife (who is also an advocate of the marriage builders stuff i post) that #1 Your comments are an enemy of good conversation and since you have a higher need for conversation than me, you better make it easier for me or i will not be engaging in conversation with you right now(if she complains, I walk away and let her re-engage later in a better tone). #2 My wife never refuses affection or sex unless she is on PMS week and feeling really tired and grouchy .. but then I can read that from her and I just disengage until her energy changes or try and cheer her up some by gaming her a bit and letting her **** testing roll off my back.

Of course since my wife has my best interests in mind more often than not (even after almost 20 years of being together) and I have hers, I dont have to worry about any of the above. She knows what I expect of her .. and vise versa.

But yes I have seen this type of behaviour many times .. including in my own marriage many years ago before we started using marriage builders tools and I started using the "pook" stuff on her. The combined recipe of those two things works fantasticly. Of course the marriage builders stuff works both ways .. and often puts my wife in her place when I bring it up or point out where SHE is not following the MB principals. haha.. and like the so suave stuff suggests ... you withdraw from her a bit to cool down (marriage builders says this too) to prevent your heated moments from escelating to proportions that it doesnt need to get to.
 

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Epimanes you are a liar and a troll...go kill yourself worthless faggot


@playherman the sad thing is so many modern men **dream** about having a ballbusting harridan to come home to...men have yet to comprehend that under western laws they are nothing but wage slaves in the eyes of their wives
 

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Burroughs said:
Epimanes you are a liar and a troll...go kill yourself worthless faggot
Go off the deep end much?

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@playherman the sad thing is so many modern men **dream** about having a ballbusting harridan to come home to...men have yet to comprehend that under western laws they are nothing but wage slaves in the eyes of their wives
In many cases, you would be correct. If you're inside the matrix.
 

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Burroughs said:
Epimanes you are a liar and a troll...go kill yourself worthless faggot
Whoah ... I take it this attitude is the norm for you? Sorry you feel that way. And Nope I am not a troll .. I am not going to go kill myself because my AMAZING wife and 2 FANTASTIC children would be greatly upset.

Also Burroughs .. if your so darn perfect with women and you think the stuff I post is for faggots ...... what would you do to keep things going after 20 years with the same women who has had your children. Hmmmm??? How would you make it work?

I would love to see a report or a guide FROM YOU on how to last a lifetime with one woman and not commit adultery when the going gets rough and not next her but actually a good strategy guide to keep and love and cherish her AND get what you need. Tell me ... Mr Burroughs. How would you do it? Post something for us Married guys thats positive ... and helpful for us in learning how to live happily ever after with one woman. ... with your professional and SOUND advice...:up: :rolleyes:

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Epimanes said:
.. I am not going to go kill myself because my AMAZING wife and 2 FANTASTIC children would be greatly upset.
Uh ok :crazy: fantasize much faggot

@speed dawg if you can't see this troll preying on weak men to sell a product then you are a mark...take your blinders off
 

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Sell ??? you dont have to buy anything ... the info is FREE. fvck your dense burroughs. Get your head out of your arse.
 

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Epimanes said:
Whoah ... I take it this attitude is the norm for you? Sorry you feel that way. And Nope I am not a troll .. I am not going to go kill myself because my AMAZING wife and 2 FANTASTIC children would be greatly upset.

Also Burroughs .. if your so darn perfect with women and you think the stuff I post is for faggots ...... what would you do to keep things going after 20 years with the same women who has had your children. Hmmmm??? How would you make it work?

I would love to see a report or a guide FROM YOU on how to last a lifetime with one woman and not commit adultery when the going gets rough and not next her but actually a good strategy guide to keep and love and cherish her AND get what you need. Tell me ... Mr Burroughs. How would you do it? Post something for us Married guys thats positive ... and helpful for us in learning how to live happily ever after with one woman. ... with your professional and SOUND advice...:up: :rolleyes:

Epi
Wow.. that's a long winded reply for a one liner.

Maybe you have (by your definition) a "good marriage" and you are happy in it. However, it still takes a certain amount of p*ssy-whippedness to make a marriage work. After all, once you get married the wife becomes all powerful and the sexual gate-keeper. If that works for you great.

All modern married men are slaves. Its not even debatable. Some men like bowing down to authority.. so those men are well suited for marriage.
 

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All modern married men are slaves. Its not even debatable. Some men like bowing down to authority.. so those men are well suited for marriage.
You are completely full of horse ****. I'm living proof of that. And if be some chance I ever did fall victim to this, it's really not that hard to go out and get more pvssy.
 

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You are completely full of horse ****. I'm living proof of that. And if be some chance I ever did fall victim to this, it's really not that hard to go out and get more pvssy.
It still takes a certain amount of p*ssy-whippedness to make a marriage work. Plus, your wife can totally r@pe you in divorce court if/when she decides she wants to leave you.

You have to keep your wife happy or pay a high price. That's slavery in my book.

With a girlfriend you just tell her to f*ck off. You lose nothing but access to one p*ssy.
 

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PlayHer Man said:
It still takes a certain amount of p*ssy-whippedness to make a marriage work.
No, it doesn't. But yes, you do have to respect your wife as a human being. I know that seems like a foreign concept to you. You're listening to the wrong people.

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You have to keep your wife happy
You are approaching this from the wrong perspective.
 

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So what is the correct perspective Speed dawg?
 

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Never listen to married men trying to sell marriage

thats like listening to alcoholics talk about the wisdom of drinking :)

Married men have decided to throw all logic and facts aside and financially entwine themselves with a woman who through the state has profound rights to the man's future income while the man has no right to hers nor his children...marriage in the west is a PROFOUNDLY IMBALANCED system that apparently many men are too stupid to understand.

Married men collectively are delusional idiots who have committed the worst mistake of their life...society doesn't speak on this because shackled married men pay taxes and drive the engines of state.

married men have their heads permanently on the chopping block...the wife is the executioner...and the police state is the blade.....does that sound like a good deal to you :crackup:
 

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Burroughs said:
Never listen to married men trying to sell marriage

thats like listening to alcoholics talk about the wisdom of drinking :)

Married men have decided to throw all logic and facts aside and financially entwine themselves with a woman who through the state has profound rights to the man's future income while the man has no right to hers nor his children...marriage in the west is a PROFOUNDLY IMBALANCED system that apparently many men are too stupid to understand.

Married men collectively are delusional idiots who have committed the worst mistake of their life...society doesn't speak on this because shackled married men pay taxes and drive the engines of state.

married men have their heads permanently on the chopping block...the wife is the executioner...and the police state is the blade.....does that sound like a good deal to you :crackup:
Fair enough.

So what happens to civilization when no one gets married? No family structure at all. All kids are reared by single parents.
 

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So what happens to civilization when no one gets married? No family structure at all. All kids are reared by single parents.
I raise my child with full custody...But her mother is worthless so that is fine...I come from some money so i could afford an excellent lawyer to get me full custody...i consider myself very fortunate...but most men can't spend hundreds of thousands to get justice

and that was cheap

why?

because I never married her mother and I am VERY thankful for this...it saved me much pain and financial bleeding.

my issue is that men NO LONGER BE THE SCAPEGOAT FOR WOMEN'S BAD CHOICES...FINANCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY, NOTHING....we are far away from this reality. western women have men literally by the ballz legally financially and socially....and men do not seem to care or want to be bothered with this for the most part..

do men enjoy being slaves?

You see the anger manifested when men such as myself and others try to tell men not to be so addicted to the puzzy...its absurd. Men are more attached to their ego investments than the truth
 

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lol ... for some reason burroughs .. i liked the above post. haha. I'll give you some rep for it. :)

I get your reasoning... I really do. Thats great you got full custody. I can see the benefits of both worlds. Married and not married. There is def times I wish I was not married, but those times are far and few between.
 

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You see the anger manifested when men such as myself and others try to tell men not to be so addicted to the puzzy...its absurd. Men are more attached to their ego investments than the truth
I agree, but I did not ask you how you were raising your kid. I think it's proven fact that a father-mother family dynamic is best. It is what makes civilization work at its best. The father does not have to bow down to anyone. It does take a bit of screening.

Hey, I have no problem re-vamping the court system that is most definitely biased towards women. I'm not saying it's all right at this point, it's not. Family courts and lawyers are screwed up beyond belief. The courts should have a universal decision....split assets 50/50. Divorcees can negotiate, but at the core it is 50/50 and that cannot be compromised. If you have one car, and you cannot barter back and forth, you sell the car and half the proceeds. End of story.

With kids, simple. Boys go with the father, girls go with the mother. End of story. But you can't do that, because there's always a credibility issue, blah blah blah.

So yes, men should know exactly what they are getting into with marriage. And for an NBA player who's worth 75 million to marry a gold digging ***** from NY who has never worked in her life, worth nothing, without a pre-nup? Well, maybe that guy NEEDS to get his **** took.

Have to think first.
 

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I think it's proven fact that a father-mother family dynamic is best. It is what makes civilization work at its best. The father does not have to bow down to anyone. It does take a bit of screening.
^^^
THAT.

I always find it funny how the anti-marriage folk complain about how the good 'ol days are gone....in terms of gender relations, that is; but when it comes to having children, they seem just fine with tearing a page out of the Radical Feminist's Guide to the Galaxy and supporting the notion of children being born and raised out of wedlock. :crazy:

Those who want to have it both ways are playing themselves.

They can't grasp that creating a family is not just the cornerstone of marriage, it is also the cornerstone of society. Marriage involves building something that is bigger than you or her as individuals. Neither my wife or myself even dared to entertain the idea of conceiving our daughter out of wedlock, much less have her be born to unwed parents. Though my wife and I are both conservative, we are not religious fundamentalists. We surely didn't get married to make a sociopolitical statement, but it still follows that by default, getting married and having a family is an automatic rejection of radical feminism; and we like that.

MARRIAGE hasn't changed. PEOPLE have changed. Our uber-liberal, fukked up court system has something to do with that, but it's not the sole motivator. People's VALUES have changed for the worse, no thanks to increasing materialism/greed, hyper-sexuality, spiritual and moral bankruptcy, arrested development, cultural and moral relativism, drug "culture" (thanks beatniks and hippie baby-boomers), pornography addiction, mainstream ghetto glorification, widespread support of homosexual marriage...all of which is facilitated by an increasingly aggressive, seductive and degenerate media. Babylonian decadence. The family unit is now considered "unhip" and a life sentence of minivan cruising, while many believe that if one is still going to have children, that legions of bastard children are to inherit the Earth....and yet that is somehow supposed to work out best for society. Those are some LOONEY tunes they're singin!
 

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I'd rep you again if I could, Alness. I'm guessing we won't see any more of Burroughs in this thread.
 

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AlNess said:
^^^
THAT.

I always find it funny how the anti-marriage folk complain about how the good 'ol days are gone....in terms of gender relations, that is; but when it comes to having children, they seem just fine with tearing a page out of the Radical Feminist's Guide to the Galaxy and supporting the notion of children being born and raised out of wedlock. :crazy:

Those who want to have it both ways are playing themselves.

They can't grasp that creating a family is not just the cornerstone of marriage, it is also the cornerstone of society. Marriage involves building something that is bigger than you or her as individuals. Neither my wife or myself even dared to entertain the idea of conceiving our daughter out of wedlock, much less have her be born to unwed parents. Though my wife and I are both conservative, we are not religious fundamentalists. We surely didn't get married to make a sociopolitical statement, but it still follows that by default, getting married and having a family is an automatic rejection of radical feminism; and we like that.

MARRIAGE hasn't changed. PEOPLE have changed. Our uber-liberal, fukked up court system has something to do with that, but it's not the sole motivator. People's VALUES have changed for the worse, no thanks to increasing materialism/greed, hyper-sexuality, spiritual and moral bankruptcy, arrested development, cultural and moral relativism, drug "culture" (thanks beatniks and hippie baby-boomers), pornography addiction, mainstream ghetto glorification, widespread support of homosexual marriage...all of which is facilitated by an increasingly aggressive, seductive and degenerate media. Babylonian decadence. The family unit is now considered "unhip" and a life sentence of minivan cruising, while many believe that if one is still going to have children, that legions of bastard children are to inherit the Earth....and yet that is somehow supposed to work out best for society. Those are some LOONEY tunes they're singin!
The main problem is the value of the women available and the marriage laws that give them all the power.

I guess you are basically suggesting men sacrifice themselves to save the "family unit and kids"? Well, that is only possible with cooperative women. If a woman is just going to crap on family values and divorce you the minute the marriage isn't "fun".. YOU THE MAN pay the price.

Worth it? I think not. I think its better to have kids out of wedlock than to have kids raised by divorced parents.
 
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