sazc
Master Don Juan
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Haha, which answer do you want? Yes? No? LolDo LTR women even exist anymore?
All the ones I see want a quick fling
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Haha, which answer do you want? Yes? No? LolDo LTR women even exist anymore?
All the ones I see want a quick fling
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
I have a couple problems with your arguments
First is that you are basing your importance on other people. A man needs status to get women? Or to be popular? Who cares about either of those? Being popular is for high school
Second is that you mentioned you are very attractive meaning you never really had to actually work like us averages Joe's have. You are clearly neglecting this detail. I would compare this to a white male trying to talk to a black person about racism.
Third is that your grammar and language suggest you just graduated high school, so anyone with an education will find it difficult to find your words credible.
And lastly, like your other threads, this is mostly a repeat of what is in the dj bible and book of pook in a much less eloquent tone, so what value does it provide?
I stopped reading at "being popular is for high school" SMHI have a couple problems with your arguments
First is that you are basing your importance on other people. A man needs status to get women? Or to be popular? Who cares about either of those? Being popular is for high school
Second is that you mentioned you are very attractive meaning you never really had to actually work like us averages Joe's have. You are clearly neglecting this detail. I would compare this to a white male trying to talk to a black person about racism.
Third is that your grammar and language suggest you just graduated high school, so anyone with an education will find it difficult to find your words credible.
And lastly, like your other threads, this is mostly a repeat of what is in the dj bible and book of pook in a much less eloquent tone, so what value does it provide?
Agree to disagree@D.Savage This way of thinking will kill you over time. It’s draining and not empowering to anyone; you simply sound frustrated. And based on your wordy immature rant it’s not well thought out.
@ohrein said things well.
A guy can can possess swag, confidence, looks and other qualities then the second he opens his mouth the woman could lose attraction based on how he talks.
The fact you even say ‘swag’ shows you’re very immature to life and especially this realm.
Yes; people are attracted to confident, secure, good looking people over those who are not, initially. However that is such a small percentage of what attraction is and what will keep it afloat. You’re looking at this in a very shallow and binary manner.
Lol okAgree to disagree
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yeah, all you can do is what works for you, what works for me and the people i know i guess wouldnt work for you.Lol ok
Give a shoutout to the thread when you’re exclusive with a HB9 and some guy outgames your natural swagYeah, all you can do is what works for you, what works for me and the people i know i guess wouldnt work for you.
Well anybody in a LTR would have to have more than swag, were not talking about Long term relationships though, were talking about initial attraction and getting a girl into you without having to use pua tactics or "let me wait 3 days before i call her" or going on six dates and spending money ect.Give a shoutout to the thread when you’re exclusive with a HB9 and some guy outgames your natural swag
Dude. Just provide the most value in all areas. Then you won’t have to jump through hoops as people want things of high quality. But don’t do it for external validation or with the expectation that women should be doing something. Of course people will choose the best option and not make that ideal person jump through hoops. Men and womenWell anybody in a LTR would have to have more than swag, were not talking about Long term relationships though, were talking about initial attraction and getting a girl into you without having to use pua tactics or "let me wait 3 days before i call her" or going on six dates and spending money ect.
We are talking about getting laid without having to jump through hoops or work for it simply because shes already into you. If you have never experienced it or have it then cool but that doesnt make it wrong, just might not work for you i guess.
Right, i dont know if guys are misunderstanding what im saying but theres a difference between a natural and a pua, what im describing is being naturally attractive thats all im saying, i never said anything about not talking to girls or approaching women ect im just saying when you carry yourself a certain way women will instantly be attracted to you, now what happens after that is up for grabs, im strictly talking about initial attraction.Dude. Just provide the most value in all areas. Then you won’t have to jump through hoops as people want things of high quality. But don’t do it for external validation or with the expectation that women should be doing something. Of course people will choose the best option and not make that ideal person jump through hoops. Men and women
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Attraction is complex. To begin with, there are two parties involved [unless you are a narcissist]. It's a truism that you have to be attractive, to a certain extent, in order to attract a partner [and a belief in your attractiveness, to a certain extent, is no doubt an intrinsic part of this attractiveness]. But unless you are an Adonis, women will not flock to you.... however self-delusional you become. You'll still have to put your best foot forward, and toward a woman you find genuinely attractive, in an appropriate and masculine manner, if you want to see attraction gain some traction. More than cool, it also helps to be romantic.Very good points......but when you have instant attraction alotta times they chase you and its much easier, you usually have the upper hand from the gate, when you have to build attraction, she has the upper hand(not all the time this is the case) but majority of the time since shes not already into you guess whos doing the chasing and jumping through hoops while trying to build up attraction?
Yes you did =). Nice try though!I stopped reading at "being popular is for high school" SMH
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Right. This is where game is needed. But if a girl for whatever reason doesn't find you attractive there's really little you can do (at least that would be worth any time and effort).In my experience, there are women who are 100 percent not interested, and women who are initially on the fence. It's your job to pull the ones off the fence and over to your side, and you do that by raising her interest level and ultimately, her attraction towards you.
This is very true. I can cite numerous examples with men and women friends of mine where the woman said, "he grew on me (buddy's hot sister), we were friends first then got married (my super HOT hair stylist) I didn't like him at first (many, a few of my exgf's), etc., etc." Women have more to consider when having sex with a man or committing.If she's an LTR girl it's going to take more time.
When you fuuck a fat chick, a little piece inside of you dies.So sometime you gotta just get your dyck wet . Put up this check for a perfect LTR and phvck that fat bytch or that ugly chick who wants to give you some.
Better than jagging off. Maybe you can motivate her to workout .When you fuuck a fat chick, a little piece inside of you dies.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.