"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The truth about a woman's sexual past
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Ever onward
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STR8UP said:
I totally get what you're saying. This is a timely thread for me. Within the last meek I met this girl....and I don't know what to make of her. On the surface she might well be the closest thing to a "quality" woman I've met. She has her sh!t together, has no baggage and doesn't seem to have any emotional hang ups from what I can tell so far. She seems to have really good values too. In fact she told me that she dumped one of her bfs because he didn't believe in God and that she is in charge of some Sunday school Christmas activity at her church. Have I mentioned that we really seem to click?
Is this a High Quality woman?
I don't know.
Because then there is her sexual past. I haven't asked her what her score is but from the way she talks it must be high. I know this because we've talked about sex extensively and I take that as a good thing. I like a woman with a high sex drive but still.....I can't help thinking in the back of my head she's a slvt. And that's the catch 22. I want her to be a slvt but only with me. I want her to be dirty but I judge her for having a dirty past. I believe this is called the "Madonna-W hore Complex" which of course means I want her to be pure and at the same time dirty with me.
Not to mention she has told me some things she is into and while I'm willing to try a few things, I'm not sure that it's really to my taste. So I'm not sure about how to proceed because she's into it and I want to please her but I don't want to do stuff that I don't want to do.
I agree with that statement right there. I've been a pretty "dirty" guy so it should make sense that I would want someone who is just as much into sex as I am. But still...in the back of my mind I'm afraid I might judge her negatively for it or have trouble trusting her if this proceeds further.edger said:
So I guess the solution is to see what happens and give it a chance with this girl. I mean hey, we're not even "together" yet so I should stop anticipating problems.
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This doesn't make sense!!edger said:
Only valid category is "virgin" or "non-virgin"! A non-virgin number cannot be trusted!
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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You really need to grow up.Last Man Standing said:
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By definition, only those who reject truth are delusional!! And "Old" men rule the earth!STR8UP said:
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I'm going to side with LMS on this one.Last Man Standing said:
Is it wrong for me to want to marry a virgin?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
The problem is where are you going to find one, and I desirable one, when you're over 25. You won't find one at church either. The oldest virgin girl I've met was 25 and she wasn't all that attractive and she was too tight to slip a credit card in lol.Z Man said:
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Last Man Standing said:
STR8UP said:
Actually, you're both right.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
I was so pumped up about it I let my ego get to me and asked her, "Too big for ya?" In which she promptly said, "No. I've had some huge ones, but you're just the right size." Now I've been told by many chicks that I had a big one, but this broad just straight up claimed otherwise. Needless to say, this slammed my ego and caused me to completely desert her a few days later.
So be cautious, most chicks may lie to your face but there are a lot of honest women out there as well. You get what you ask for I guess
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Words to live by my friends.MatureDJ said:
1. Fear: STDs are more likely to be transmitted from the male to the female than vice versa. Thus more guys = more risk.
2. Pride: Since men generally do all of the work when trying to "catch" a lady, it seems like less of an accomplishment knowing that a whole lot of other guys caught her too.
3. Social Dissonance: The virginal girl is seen as the most desirable candidate in the western world. Purity = superiority.
4. Infidelity: a woman who likes it with a variety of different guys is thought to be more likely to get sick of you and either break up with you or cheat.