The true red pill vs the fake red pill

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Well religion has a foundation with consistency, while the red pill is whatever the poster says it is apparently. I can’t keep up with all these different viewpoints. I go off whatever is being perpetuated/old school red pill while you brought up people I’ve never heard of lol.
But its still up to different interpretations. Why do you think we have Baptists, Catholics, methodists, lutherans, ladder day saint's, Jehovas, etc. Don't get caught up in the detail. It's all good.
 

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But its still up to different interpretations. Why do you think we have Baptists, Catholics, methodists, lutherans, ladder day saint's, Jehovas, etc. Don't get caught up in the detail. It's all good.
I have an abysmal opinion of Baptists and evangelicals as a whole, the rest I understand lol.
 

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Men = gatekeepers to commitment
Women = gatekeepers to sex

One of the core principles of redpill theory, and one thing everyone in here can agree on.
 

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Can you give me some examples of this?
Sure!

1). Instilling a hyper negative and regressive mindset of women & society which harms men- Can a woman screw you over?...Yes, is it worth living a life being scared of it?...No. It is like being scared of going outside because you might be scared of being stung by a bee or getting into a car accident. Are these incidents unavoidable? No, but we take reasonable & rational preventive measures to prevent these incidents. The red pill has gone as far as advocating young men to getting vasectomies which is insane.

2). Advocating self-improvement in an unhealthy way- Going to the gym, finding hobbies, and working on your career is doable, but the RP is trying to convince its followers that they are failures if they aren't some 1% yacht clouting crypto bro by age 40. Again, this is insane and toxic.

3). Idols that do not practice what they preach- Everyone marketing the red pill is living a purple pilled life at best. They all have GFs or wives. Most of them live normal lives outside their podcasts and YouTube videos.

4). Cultish sectarian tactics like labeling everyone against them and Echo chamber mindsets- According to the Red Pill, everyone is against them, every guy in a relationship is getting cucked/cheated on, every other guy is starved for pvssy, feminism is the Gestapo police of the world, but Red Pillers are safe in their Youtube/Podcast echochambers.
 

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Sure!

1). Instilling a hyper negative and regressive mindset of women & society which harms men- Can a woman screw you over?...Yes, is it worth living a life being scared of it?...No. It is like being scared of going outside because you might be scared of being stung by a bee or getting into a car accident. Are these incidents unavoidable? No, but we take reasonable & rational preventive measures to prevent these incidents. The red pill has gone as far as advocating young men to getting vasectomies which is insane.

2). Advocating self-improvement in an unhealthy way- Going to the gym, finding hobbies, and working on your career is doable, but the RP is trying to convince its followers that they are failures if they aren't some 1% yacht clouting crypto bro by age 40. Again, this is insane and toxic.

3). Idols that do not practice what they preach- Everyone marketing the red pill is living a purple pilled life at best. They all have GFs or wives. Most of them live normal lives outside their podcasts and YouTube videos.

4). Cultish sectarian tactics like labeling everyone against them and Echo chamber mindsets- According to the Red Pill, everyone is against them, every guy in a relationship is getting cucked/cheated on, every other guy is starved for pvssy, feminism is the Gestapo police of the world, but Red Pillers are safe in their Youtube/Podcast echochambers.
I don't disagree with your criticisms here, but I do disagree with the scope of them.

1.
Red Pill doesn't instill hyper negative views of women, it instills reasonably accurate ones, and uses coping mechanisms (like referring to all women as b*tches) to ensure a more accurate representation of them is used.
If you never idolized women, this would be completely misplaced. But most people who actually need TRP, have idolized women and were formerly bluepilled. They literally need this cope so they can take women off the pedestal.
That being said, men who call women b*tches tend to get more b*tches than men who don't.

2.
I don't think TRP says anyone that isn't a 1% male is a beta virgin f*ggot. I think they say you should strive towards the 1%. There are probably content creators who say stuff like this for sure, but the general theme of TRP is that you should strive for the impossible and make yourself as attractive as you can.

3.
the general advice is to not get married. I stand by this advice.
There is a time and place in which marriage is not an overall bad idea, and that is typically only after someone has been able to make themselves into a self-actualized person who does not rely on their woman at all. Someone who can treat her like she is replaceable.
Most men, by default, don't act this way. Maybe it's social programming, idk, but how many married men do you see just taking nonstop sh*t from their wives?
If you can walk away from a wife treating you like this, then, and only then, is marriage possibly not a terrible idea.

No one owns TRP. It's not an organization or sole product of any one individual. if it were say Rollo's baby and no one else had written anything for or about it, and Rollo says "don't ever get married" while being married - yeah, there's a problem.
But the mindset as a whole is much better aligned towards preventing divorce r*pe - opposed to being anti-marriage.

4.
to be fair, there is active and ongoing efforts against the red pill and many of the content creators, both by persons, groups, organizations, and government entities.
There literally are people out to get them, and they are powerful.
Feel free to read here. I brought receipts.
Check the bottom of the first page and see that it is funded by the department of homeland security.

They have a list of specific content creators whom they are monitoring.

I don't think it's crazy for them to think the world is out to get them. Reddit has literal child pornography on it and yet they still quarantined The Red Pill. Makes sense, right?


I'm pretty much done trying to debate this stuff because it's honestly annoying to do so.
Don't like the red pill, don't read it. It helped me. I don't hate women, I just view them accurately and I'm doing better with them as a result.
 

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3). Idols that do not practice what they preach- Everyone marketing the red pill is living a purple pilled life at best. They all have GFs or wives. Most of them live normal lives outside their podcasts and YouTube videos.

Eerily reminiscent of 0:00-1:22

 

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Fake Red Pill: The Bitter Rage Pill

After experiencing one or several negative encounters with women, you start to believe that this behavior is typical and unavoidable. Consequently, you become fixated on various theories and strategies to delay the inevitable and manage the resulting pain. In the end, you may think you have adopted a "red pill" mindset, but in reality, you have simply transformed into the type of person who drove you to embrace the red pill philosophy in the first place.

Now the True Red Pill: Accepting that you will never be that guy

Experience firsthand how attractive women treat the men they are interested in versus those they aren't. The favored men do not face the same challenges: no masculine-feminine energy struggles, no tests, no mind games, no constant back-and-forth, no fear of approaching women, no gaslighting, no pressure to change themselves to appear more attractive, and no tricks.

Meanwhile, you might find yourself frustrated and upset, feeling like you're constantly hitting a wall when it comes to dating in today's world. You're hoping for a magical solution or a catastrophic event that will humble women and level the playing field.

These men will patiently wait for women who show genuine interest, rather than sifting through fleeting encounters like others. Moreover, they will recognize when they have found someone special and avoid sabotaging the relationship with a scarcity mindset or laziness.


Watch this video up to the 7-minute mark and it will show you exactly how women treat the "The Favored" men. Notice how she was being aggressively masculine until the Tyrone walked into the room and she switched to her feminine energy.



The Manosphere has been no less susceptible to what Bruni describes there
 

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4). Cultish sectarian tactics like labeling everyone against them and Echo chamber mindsets- According to the Red Pill, everyone is against them, every guy in a relationship is getting cucked/cheated on, every other guy is starved for pvssy, feminism is the Gestapo police of the world, but Red Pillers are safe in their Youtube/Podcast echochambers.



It's not a coincidence that Intersectionality/Wokeness and The Red Pill both became forefront in our culture at the same time
 

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3). Idols that do not practice what they preach- Everyone marketing the red pill is living a purple pilled life at best. They all have GFs or wives. Most of them live normal lives outside their podcasts and YouTube videos.

4). Cultish sectarian tactics like labeling everyone against them and Echo chamber mindsets- According to the Red Pill, everyone is against them, every guy in a relationship is getting cucked/cheated on, every other guy is starved for pvssy, feminism is the Gestapo police of the world, but Red Pillers are safe in their Youtube/Podcast echochambers.

Much of what Crichton observed about Environmentalism, back in '03,


Is no less true of The Red Pill. It's not mere coincidence that so many card-carrying Red Pillers claim to be Atheist/Atheist-esque, or(in the case of Roosh and the like), some have become Born Again Bible/Koran humpers. This particular dogma is fulfilling a vacuum once occupied by The Abrahamic religions
 
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