"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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The Top Mature Men issues

MackJr

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I think the top issues for mature men tend to be

1. Women with children
2. Post-Divorce issues (re-entering dating scene, drama)
3. Sordid past (alcoholism, substance, criminal record)
4. One's own children, especially sons.
5. Late Virgins (25+ virgins)
6. formerly impotence (pre-viagra)

I was thinking that maybe we should tailor some of the material we have for these specific situations. Does anyone else have a feel for what the major "mature" men's issues are?, and how we can address them for people on the site?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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penkitten

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those are great topics . are you thinking of adding some definitions and abheviations or are you trying to gather matieral for new tips that need to be added ?

i think some new tips on these areas should be added to the hall of fame and bible.
 

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Holy crap, a thread that actually isn't stupid.

Though I don't share this problem, maybe you should add baldness to the list.
 

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Yes I would have to say that the late virgin problem is something I have. Also the late kissing problem, and touching problem, since I am 25 and haven't done those things either.
 

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I am 31. Women close to my age are itching to get married. I don't want to get married any time soon. Maybe by the time I am 40. The way I look at it, its their problem....not mine.

fan27
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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My 'catch 22 situation' is that I'm a bachelor in the truest sense. Single, educated, good job, no dependents, no alimony and an excellent credit rating. I enjoy not having any obligations other than my own.

I'm lucky enough that I'm able to date women my age or 10 years my junior. The problem is that most women my age already have children and would love to have a stable, experienced "family man" in their lives. Been there, done that; nuff said. On the other hand, younger women typically want to have children and settle down and I'm in a place to be a springboard for all of that.

So my problem is finding a woman who is as selfish as I am who enjoys the hedonistic debauchery that NOT having a family allows you to have. So often people define themselves by their families and personally I feel that causes more turmoil than anything else.
 

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This is a good list. A "sticky" for each of those (with links to good previously posted threads) would work.
 

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You could probably add

7. Online dating
8. Dating younger women
 

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Originally posted by Bible_Belt
I'm not looking at any stretch marks that I didn't put there.
Haha.....one chick I dated for a bit got the raw deal from having a kid. Lets just say she felt she had to warn me before I saw them myself. Yep, it was pretty scary.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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MackJr

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Here's what I have:

1. Women with children
2. Post-Divorce issues (re-entering dating scene, drama)
3. Sordid past (alcoholism, substance, criminal record)
4. One's own children, especially sons.
5. Late Virgins (25+ virgins)
6. formerly impotence (pre-viagra)
7. Online dating
8. Dating younger women
9. Aging (baldness, grey hair, etc)

I haven't experienced all of these so, it'd be useful if some of you would chip in on 2, 3, 4, 5 especially.

I'll put a post for #5 after I do a little research.

MackJr.
 

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the women with children issue is a MAJOR CONCERN FOR ME especially since i am african american and i say at least 80-85 percent of black women have children. at my age the mid thirties it is hard to find a woman without kids.
 

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Originally posted by hartwell
the women with children issue is a MAJOR CONCERN FOR ME especially since i am african american and i say at least 80-85 percent of black women have children. at my age the mid thirties it is hard to find a woman without kids.
You could try white women. They will all think you have a huge c0ck because you are black. Yeah it's racist, but this is the one time you can use racism in your favor.

:cheer:
 

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10. The assumptions many if not most women make if you're over 30 (or 40, or whatever) and have never been married.

11. "Resume" issues, i.e., not having the level of financial stability, the good job, the good house in the 'burbs, and whatever else more mature men are expected to have. This can sometimes be the result of #3 or #2, but could also be business-related (failed business, starting new business, etc.).
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Here here!

Originally posted by Bible_Belt
I'm not looking at any stretch marks that I didn't put there.
Even the ones that are put there 1st person are bad enough!
Chics who were once fat then lose the weight often have similar problems as ones who had love trophies. Whatever the reason, it's not sexy and causes problems in the bedroom for sure....... At least for me anyway....... And I have 2 kids... So I know where you're coming from........lol
 

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Originally posted by hartwell
the women with children issue is a MAJOR CONCERN FOR ME especially since i am african american and i say at least 80-85 percent of black women have children. at my age the mid thirties it is hard to find a woman without kids.
I hear you loud and clear.
 

MackJr

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I'd like for these to be a sticky. I don't know the full qualifications for something to be sticky-worthy. We have some of the issues addressed.

Why don't we (everyone reading) start posting links that match up with the numbered list on page 1, then the links can be collected in a stickied post.

1 and 5 are covered. I'm sure that some of the others are as well.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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