"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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The Thread About "KISSING"

donjuanmaster1

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Greetings Don Juans and afc's alike, been reading this forum for some time. I am only offering those who read this the truth and nothing more, you either agree with it or you don't. We live in a society where women are promiscuous beyond belief and are "sexually liberated." Hell, you see the innocent looking girl with glasses in your class, she can be the biggest slut but you don't even know it yet. Most clueless guys put women on a pedestal, all the while they are clueless that she is having sex/oral sex with other guys.. Women are in high demand and have lots of options now a days. Hell, even 1-5's have options and act like pop divas, 6's think they are 9's etc.

One trend I have noticed in the "pua", sosuave, etc. world is that they talk about "kiss closes" like its something to be proud of, how they are far from correct.. In the context that you kiss a virgin girl or a non-promiscuous girl then that would be something to be proud of. You remember that girl you kissed in that night club one time, got her number and there was never a day 2? yeah her, I know some of you sosuavers know what I'm talking about. Girls go to nightclubs all the time even if they have bf's, husbands, fb's etc. They will go to nightclubs to kiss and thats all, all the while they had oral sex 30 mins before etc., and some clueless afc, Don Juan, pua has the girls sloppy seconds via kiss close. Hell, this can happen anywhere, this can be your girlfriend, a plate that your spinning, a girl your seeing for coffee. She can be having oral sex 15 minutes before you see her and then you kiss her, all the while unwittingly getting a taste of sloppy seconds. Unfortunately these problems have been left out in the dark in pua world, until now. Personally I know how promiscuous girls can be, I have a f-buddy and she has a boyfriend(refer to above.)
 
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"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Gray The Prince

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Lol, I don't kiss girls I first meet nor do I kiss random chicks in the clubs UNLESS I've been pregaming and am fairly drunk but even then, I still don't kiss random girls.
 

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Gray The Prince said:
Lol, I don't kiss girls I first meet nor do I kiss random chicks in the clubs UNLESS I've been pregaming and am fairly drunk but even then, I still don't kiss random girls.
Gray the prince you eventually k-close them BEFORE the f-close no?
 

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donjuanmaster1 said:
One trend I have noticed in the "pua", sosuave, etc. world is that they talk about "kiss closes" like its something to be proud of, how they are far from correct.. In the context that you kiss a virgin girl or a non-promiscuous girl then that would be something to be proud of. You remember that girl you kissed in that night club one time, got her number and there was never a day 2? yeah her, I know some of you sosuavers know what I'm talking about. Girls go to nightclubs all the time even if they have bf's, husbands, fb's etc. They will go to nightclubs to kiss and thats all, all the while they had oral sex 30 mins before etc., and some clueless afc, Don Juan, pua has the girls sloppy seconds via kiss close. Hell, this can happen anywhere, this can be your girlfriend, a plate that your spinning, a girl your seeing for coffee. She can be having oral sex 15 minutes before you see her and then you kiss her, all the while unwittingly getting a taste of sloppy seconds. Unfortunately these problems have been left out in the dark in pua world, until now. Personally I know how promiscuous girls can be, I have a f-buddy and she has a boyfriend(refer to above.)

Do you so suavers really k-close a girl before f-close, who has a boyfriend etc. or even a plate your spinning, girl you met.
You sound like a paranoid freak, buddy. Like a puppy whose been kicked too many times. Sorry if some chick you liked blew her FB before making out with you. I really think that's more the exception than the rule.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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donjuanmaster1

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Mantis Toboggan said:
You sound like a paranoid freak, buddy. Like a puppy whose been kicked too many times. Sorry if some chick you liked blew her FB before making out with you. I really think that's more the exception than the rule.
Funny how those that point the finger have 3 fingers pointing back at them, don't be mad because you choose to kiss close your plates in ignorance while staying ignorant that your plate or girlfriend blew a guy like me. Just don't try to downplay this truthful topic.
 

P­ornography

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donjuanmaster1 said:
Greetings Don Juans and afc's alike, been reading this forum for some time. I am only offering those who read this the truth and nothing more, you either agree with it or you don't. We live in a society where women are promiscuous beyond belief and are "sexually liberated." Hell, you see the innocent looking girl with glasses in your class, she can be the biggest slut but you don't even know it yet. Most clueless guys put women on a pedestal, all the while they are clueless that she is having sex/oral sex with other guys.. Women are in high demand and have lots of options now a days. Hell, even 1-5's have options and act like pop divas, 6's think they are 9's etc.

One trend I have noticed in the "pua", sosuave, etc. world is that they talk about "kiss closes" like its something to be proud of, how they are far from correct.. In the context that you kiss a virgin girl or a non-promiscuous girl then that would be something to be proud of. You remember that girl you kissed in that night club one time, got her number and there was never a day 2? yeah her, I know some of you sosuavers know what I'm talking about. Girls go to nightclubs all the time even if they have bf's, husbands, fb's etc. They will go to nightclubs to kiss and thats all, all the while they had oral sex 30 mins before etc., and some clueless afc, Don Juan, pua has the girls sloppy seconds via kiss close. Hell, this can happen anywhere, this can be your girlfriend, a plate that your spinning, a girl your seeing for coffee. She can be having oral sex 15 minutes before you see her and then you kiss her, all the while unwittingly getting a taste of sloppy seconds. Unfortunately these problems have been left out in the dark in pua world, until now. Personally I know how promiscuous girls can be, I have a f-buddy and she has a boyfriend(refer to above.)

Do you so suavers really k-close a girl before f-close, who has a boyfriend etc. or even a plate your spinning, girl you met.
Brother what the FVCK. WHAT THE SH7TFVCK is going through your head, that would entice you to start a paranoid thread like this?

Just keep a cool head and relax. Don't overthink things so much, and just kiss the girl!! Peace, all the best
 

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snowdog said:
Kissing is fun. Stop talking so much.
P­ornography said:
Brother what the FVCK. WHAT THE SH7TFVCK is going through your head, that would entice you to start a paranoid thread like this?
Just keep a cool head and relax. Don't overthink things so much, and just kiss the girl!! Peace, all the best

replied by an afc like snow dog who gives ****ty perpetual advice in many posts

and from a guy named "Pornography" rofl. learn how to spell and keep it classy, this thread isn't about me, its about open discussion hence the name "Discussion forum." This advice isn't for me this is for the real Dj's who have experience and seeing patterns when it comes to women and kissing.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Carry a bottle of mouthwash and have her gargle and rinse before you make out with her.

Problem solved.

:D
 

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Any other dj's out there who have anything to say, or are you all ignorant, staying ignorant to this subject. p.s. noobs/afc's need not reply.
 

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PDubb75 said:
Reading this was a waste of my time. That's what I have to say.
If it was a waste of your time you wouldn't need to reply and say it. Law of psychology it has effected you in some way and your verbalizing via denial. Don't post on this thread unless you have something intelligent to say via the TOPIC. Don't shoot the messenger.
 

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Since you're busy being the spelling police on the Pornography.....it's "affected", not "effected", champ.

Also, quit criticizing people who came on the discussion board to discuss what you posted. If you don't agree with them, then move on. Seems like your angry responses demonstrate that the "law of psychology" shows their "afc posts" "effected" you.

And the regurgitated dj bible material you posted with hints of your own paranoia seems trollworthy....sh!t, I just fed the troll. Come out from under your bridge, brother!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Donjuanmaster1, you are one cranky cookie.

Btw, it should be "and you're verbalizing" not "your." ;)

I still don't know what your POV is. Are you saying that all girls blow guys before kissing? Or most girls? Or some girls?

You claim to offer the truth yet your point isn't clear. You claim to welcome discussion yet insult anyone who disagrees with you ... and then tell people to keep it classy.
 

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replied by an afc like snow dog who gives ****ty perpetual advice in many posts

and from a guy named "Pornography" rofl. learn how to spell and keep it classy, this thread isn't about me, its about open discussion hence the name "Discussion forum." This advice isn't for me this is for the real Dj's who have experience and seeing patterns when it comes to women and kissing.
Whatever. You come across as an insecure little b*tch with nothing but a big mouth. You talk a lot but say nothing.

And don't be talking about other people's spelling if you can't get your punctuation right, genius.
 

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snowdog said:
Whatever. You come across as an insecure little b*tch with nothing but a big mouth. You talk a lot but say nothing.

And don't be talking about other people's spelling if you can't get your punctuation right, genius.
Ah, Snowf4g let me bring up a thread that will bring an end to your futile attempts to downplay this thread, showing your insecurity and anger because this thread has hit a cord with the true AFC b1tch that you are. You are the one who is insecure trying to belittle this thread, who has a big mouth with sh1tty advice.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122336&page=27

You kissed a woman with nothing to show for it and this thread made you insecure. GTFO
 

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They say that during a lifetime, the average person will swallow an average of 9 bugs while they are sleeping.

This includes spiders bro.

Personally, I think it is more detrimental to a person to worry about stuff like you bring up in this thread than to actually experience the consequences.

To put it simply, I would rather take the risk of making out with some girls post ******* mouth (I think you may overestimate this risk, btw) than to worry about whether or not the girl I am making out with just gave some dude a beej in the john.


OP, just curious as to what set you off on this topic?
 

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donjuanmaster1 said:
Ah, Snowf4g let me bring up a thread that will bring an end to your futile attempts to downplay this thread, showing your insecurity and anger because this thread has hit a cord with the true AFC b1tch that you are. You are the one who is insecure trying to belittle this thread, who has a big mouth with sh1tty advice.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=122336&page=27

You kissed a woman with nothing to show for it and this thread made you insecure. GTFO
What makes you think I live by your ridiculous standards? Here's a reality check for you: you're nothing but a forgettable, bad joke joke to me. You're the one who's angry here and is attacking people left and right. It's pretty sad that you're so insecure that you feel the need to put random people you don't even know down.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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