"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The theft security **** test

Ease

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You are at a party or bar with friends and your girlfriend. You are with males in a group and you spot your girlfriend sitting with her friend at a table when 2 guys you dont know sit down and enter a conversation. Your girl and her friend are being chatted up, the guys are good looking and the girls are smiling. You are in a relationship, hence she is your girl, and the other girl is also taken but the fellow boyfriend is not here.

What do you do?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I would let them do there thing and i will do mine thing because at the end of the day she will come back to me. If not, then her lost.
 

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there is not much upside to acting jealous and over protective imo so what Ease said is probably the better reaction.
 

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Ease said:
You are at a party or bar with friends and your girlfriend. You are with males in a group and you spot your girlfriend sitting with her friend at a table when 2 guys you dont know sit down and enter a conversation. Your girl and her friend are being chatted up, the guys are good looking and the girls are smiling. You are in a relationship, hence she is your girl, and the other girl is also taken but the fellow boyfriend is not here.

What do you do?
Let them chat, Like you said it`s a party/bar, Offcourse thers is guys trying to pick them up, At the end of the day she is still going home with me :rolleyes: And maybe the 2 guys were gay?

However if the guys sat down while i was getting a drink, and the girls didn`t bother to say the seat was taken hmm...
 

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Don't get jealous, Think for a moment if your gf wants to cheat she will cheat on you. in the mean while you can talk with other girls out there.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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st_99 said:
there is not much upside to acting jealous and over protective imo so what Ease said is probably the better reaction.
What reaction? I haven't said anything yet.

My opinion will follow soon after we get some more perspectives..

Remember, the title is '**** test' for a reason, tests are always an opportunity.
 

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Pull out my **** and lay it on the table casually. Look at the guys after you do this and tell them all things at this table belong to my ****. You sure you want to stick around????? If they leave then have 3-way w/ both girls. If they stay....... not good
 

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I don't think there is much you can do without coming across as jealous. Like the other poster said, if she's gonna cheat, she's gonna cheat.

A bar is a social place. Most girls there ARE already taken. "Singles bars" no longer exist, at least where I'm from. It's not her fault guys approached her. If she's just talking, she's not really doing anything wrong. If she gives out her number or gets physical with the guy, that's another story. Dump her a$s then.

Overall, I wouldn't worry too much if you trust your girl. Plus she has her c@ckblocking friend with her, so I doubt anything is going to happen.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Yup, if she's gonna cheat she's gonna cheat. I don't see a problem in sitting down with all of them yourself and having a good conversation though? I don't think that would come off as jealous unless you act like a total **** to the guys.
 

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Ok so doing nothing is 1 option. Nothing bad should come of it, it would happen even if you weren't there and it might show you aren't jealous.

However given the extent of the situation, that this is obviously a pickup attempt and everyone can see what is happening.

It is a matter of principle, and a great show of dominance to your girl and the people in the room. It's important to have the respect of people so that guys would think twice about making a move on your girl, if you cant establish that then the guy deserves to take her.

Girls are the choosers, but it is your responsibility as a man to protect your position. In this case you go over say 'hi boys' put your hand on their shoulders, sit down and talk to the guys without letting them continue their convo with the girls.

Of course if this is a once in a while type thing. You cant be there to pick up every time.
 

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I've never really done the whole jealousy thing, because most of the girls I've known who saw it as a positive turned out to be really needy - borderline attention-whorish.

A woman will tell a guy if she's not interested. We all have experienced this. That's why SoSuave exists.

If she's a woman worth keeping, she'll be able to handle such a situation by herself/with her friend.

If on the other hand, the guy starts getting gropey, or she pulls a signal - if you're dating her you should know what these signals are (a girl I dated once texted me while some guy was talking to her and said he wouldn't go away even after telling him she wasn't interested/was taken... I was in the same room about 10 feet away talking to one of my friends) - THEN you should intervene.

At the end of the day, we all know that talkin's just talkin'. If you're in a long term relationship, best not to make mountains out of mole-hills. Especially on behalf of a girl who can't handle herself in these situations.
 

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Seeing this and doing nothing is not always the correct way to deal with it.

It isn't jealousy, it's bringing out the masculine side of you. Jealousy would be complaining about it. This is to do with you and the guys at the table.
 

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Wrong.

You establish beforehand what the boundaries are in the relationship so the problem cannot even occur in the first place. In other words, her reactions are then appropriate and she gets rid of the guys herself verbally and with body language. If you're a man, you make damn sure your woman is loyal to you before these issues even come up.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Atom Smasher said:
Wrong.

You establish beforehand what the boundaries are in the relationship so the problem cannot even occur in the first place. In other words, her reactions are then appropriate and she gets rid of the guys herself verbally and with body language. If you're a man, you make damn sure your woman is loyal to you before these issues even come up.
It doesn't matter how much of a man you are and how much of a woman she is, in a scenario where alcohol is involved like a party or bar, a person can lose their morals and inhibitions pretty quickly. But in all other cases you are absolutely right.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Wrong.

You establish beforehand what the boundaries are in the relationship so the problem cannot even occur in the first place. In other words, her reactions are then appropriate and she gets rid of the guys herself verbally and with body language. If you're a man, you make damn sure your woman is loyal to you before these issues even come up.
Who are you to preach a subject that you do not know. Bow down and take a lesson.

Read the opening topic again. You are in a bar and your woman starts to get chatted up. In front of your friends, family and competitors your girlfriend starts to get chatted up. She is a respectful woman, if you left it alone she will tell them she has a boyfriend. This is not about what she says to them, not about boundaries or jealousy.

This is a matter of principle. Are you going to stand there and watch as your woman gets chatted up by guys in front of you? Are you that *****? Because you certainly are made to look like a *****. That is the real Test behind this '**** Test', how did you deal with your woman being chatted up in front of you.

This isnt your regular DJ tactics or PUA ploys. This is a matter of being a man once in a while. There is a reason i made this thread, to weed out the guys that know what's what, and the guys that just memorised the 'dj bible'.
 

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I don't think either Ease or Atom are wrong...

Atom is right because there is a place for not reacting, after all as said before you can't react if you're not there, and yes keep the abundance mentality and all that, but at the same time not be seen as a mat to be walked on.

Ease, I see what you're saying about self respect and image, and yes there will be times you will have to react of course, especially if he is getting touchy feely, but if that happens more than 2-3 times in a night, it could begin to seem overbearing mate.

Definately need to find a compromise between the two though to suit the situation...
 

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Ease, that will be the day when I bow down and take a lesson from an emotionally reactive and volitile punk like yourself.

Most of your threads reveal a blind devotion to your idea of "principle". Principle is great to live by, and I do far more than most men, but blind devotion to it reveals great insecurity. My adherance to principle is based on life strategy and tactics. I cause principle to serve me, never do I serve it.

So again, I'm telling you you're dead wrong. You're making a mountain of a molehill. You set the boundaries. If she starts to get chatted up and can't escape, you move between her and the guy or guys and guide her away. Since you've already set the boundaries, she's grateful for the rescue and cooperates fully.

I can teach you a lot about female compliance, son. When you proactively establish who wears the pants and set the boundaries (which most women love, btw), you are equipped to handle such situations with ease (no pun intended, because hotheads can't handle such situations).

Regarding your last post, first, learn the definition of a sh!t test. The scenario you describe is not a sh!t test. Secondly, you should strive to be like me... a man 100% of the time, not just "once in a while".

My bottom line is that the man makes the rules and sets the frame and expectations. Problem solved because it's prevented in the first place.

That's your lesson for today.

Ok, I'm ready for your next reaction.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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