"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Talk (being exclusive) yes or no?

Did you have the talk?

  • yes

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • no

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • Total voters
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solo1

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Anyway i've never been in a relationship but i need some advice on this. I've asked a couple of people i know (who are in relationships). My bro said he never had it and they both assumed on being the same page. My friend had it with his girl.

However with this girl im seeing, on the 2nd date, she had told me i was the only guy she was seeing...i guess she wanted me to give her a similar response. But i never really responded to it.
When she said it, i was still thinking about being a mystery, but maybe it was a bad idea.

I know she wants a LTR, and i know i do want the same. However im unsure if she knows this.
I mean we've held hands and very much act like an exclusive couple. I believe this is enough...

However earlier for thanksgiving i had invited her to come over to join my family but she couldnt since i asked her last minute and she made plans. And i am planning to ask her to join my family for x-mas dinner...which is just as good as having the talk, i believe.

Do you guys usually have the talk or just assume? and how successful was assuming?
However if i do have the talk (maybe this weekend) im not sure how to go about this, any advice would be appreciated.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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ER!C L!VE

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I always had discussed it with them. I've had a one year relationship where I asked her to be exclusive after 'seeing' each other for about 2 months (senior year of high school). My next relationship was 5 years. I asked her to be exclusive after about 3 months (at age 25)

I said something along the lines of: I'm not seeing anyone else and I hope you're not seeing anyone else. I'd like us to only date each other exclusively.

They'd light up and hug and kiss me and tell me that they wanted that too.

Just fucking talk to her about it. You can't assume that she's not going to date anyone else - you should always communicate what you want!
 

Bigworm

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bad advice -- being exclusive is something she wants more than u POWERFUL barganing tool-- u should go out at least four weeks before u say you wanna be bf. u can feel it in the relationship when u both r ready to commit -- possibly when u see her for more than sex (intellectual lvl)
 

JJMcLure

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You don't bring it up, she has to. You will lose power and control if you bring it up. You just need to focus on keeping her INTEREST LEVEL up to a level where she wants to bring it up.

She always has to believe her interest level is slightly higher than yours. The person who has the lowest interest level in the relationship controls it.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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solo1

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Originally posted by JJMcLure
You don't bring it up, she has to. You will lose power and control if you bring it up. You just need to focus on keeping her INTEREST LEVEL up to a level where she wants to bring it up.

She always has to believe her interest level is slightly higher than yours. The person who has the lowest interest level in the relationship controls it.
well the thing is she already brought it up on the 2nd date, it was a little too soon if you ask me. Im pretty sure she's ready to commit, i've seen the way she is. However to her, i probably dont appear to want to commit, just because im the type of guy that likes his space. But i do want her to know im on the same page as her. it's been almost 4 weeks.

However i do still posess control in the relationship because her IL is much higher than mine.

Anyway thx for the advice, ill probably let her know this weekend. I mean i could hold this off for another month, but i dont see a point for it.
 
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