"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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The smart chick that isn't so smart

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Talking to this girl at a bar, about 10 minutes into the conversation:

Me: so where did you go to school?
HB: Columbia
Me: You must be pretty smart then.
HB: Yes actually I was valedictorian in high school.. .blah blah (she goes on and on how she was in all these clubs and stuff and spoke at Columbia graduation)
Me: so you're a "smart" girl - (kind of giving a disapproving look)
HB: Well no not really
Me: well that's good - most smart girls I know are boring
HB: No I'm actually pretty dumb
Me: I thought you were smart
HB: Well no.. I mean.. do you like dumb girls?
Me: I like girls that are interesting.
HB: Well I'm smart but not too smart but I'm really interesting, is that OK?
Me: Maybe
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Haha, well played.

I feel like smart girls are most susceptible to good game.
 

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Damn, you had her running around in circles trying to qualify herself to you. Anyway, she has to be book smart at least to be valedictorian.
 

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Hahaha this made me laugh out loud! Good one. This is the type of girl that's worthy of attention. The *****y ones are useless and need to be left alone so they realize that they need to change.
 

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Uncharted said:
Talking to this girl at a bar, about 10 minutes into the conversation:

Me: so where did you go to school?
HB: Columbia
Me: You must be pretty smart then.
HB: Yes actually I was valedictorian in high school.. .blah blah (she goes on and on how she was in all these clubs and stuff and spoke at Columbia graduation)
Me: so you're a "smart" girl - (kind of giving a disapproving look)
HB: Well no not really
Me: well that's good - most smart girls I know are boring
HB: No I'm actually pretty dumb
Me: I thought you were smart
HB: Well no.. I mean.. do you like dumb girls?
LOL. She liked you man.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Classic case of don't listen to what comes out of her mouth - at the end of the day she'll follow her vagina before she follows her words
 

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casaanova said:
Classic case of don't listen to what comes out of her mouth - at the end of the day she'll follow her vagina before she follows her words

yup
 

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Wow.. sometimes I don't get these chicks. She seemed super into me (someone else here agreed), then blew me off for the next two dates (saying that she had to write papers). No reschedule offered. I'm going ghost, possibly nexting.

Ah well. She's not smart enough for me anyway :D
 

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Uncharted said:
Wow.. sometimes I don't get these chicks. She seemed super into me (someone else here agreed), then blew me off for the next two dates (saying that she had to write papers). No reschedule offered. I'm going ghost, possibly nexting.

Ah well. She's not smart enough for me anyway :D
Some other "smart" girl told her she is too good and deserves only the best, you should do the same tricks with all of them togheter...they have sheep mentality anyway so once you convince one the others will follow.

Think as when you were playing starcraft as kid once you approach groups of white marines in the middle of the map they automatically turn green and join your team, same with "smart girls".
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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LOL, OP, that was masterfully played. That was one heck of an entertaining exchange there.

But now here she is blowing you off. The reason is most likely that she (perhaps even subconsciously) realized that she was vacillating on her "principles" that night with you and therefore is too embarrassed to continue. With woman, and especially in bars, momentum is everything. Give them a chance to think later on and you have to recover lost ground every time.

I'm sure she's telling herself something different, like your nose it too big, you're too this, too that, but in reality she is praobably a fairly smart girl who is embarrassed for playing dumb.

Anyway, kudos for your handling.
 

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Uncharted said:
Talking to this girl at a bar, about 10 minutes into the conversation:

Me: so where did you go to school?
HB: Columbia
Me: You must be pretty smart then.
HB: Yes actually I was valedictorian in high school.. .blah blah (she goes on and on how she was in all these clubs and stuff and spoke at Columbia graduation)
Me: so you're a "smart" girl - (kind of giving a disapproving look)
HB: Well no not really
Me: well that's good - most smart girls I know are boring
HB: No I'm actually pretty dumb
Me: I thought you were smart
HB: Well no.. I mean.. do you like dumb girls?
Me: I like girls that are interesting.
HB: Well I'm smart but not too smart but I'm really interesting, is that OK?
Me: Maybe
O.P. There are a few good replies here.

The chick obviously liked you and was trying to agree with you because she probably didn't know what to say. Doesn't mean she wasn't smart. Who knows. She could've been the type to get teased for being too "stuck up" just because she's smart. So if she liked you she was trying in her own insecure way to not come off that way.

If you wanted to see her again you overdid it. (I've done that before though realized I was being an azz with my own insecurities at the time and trying to "one up" a chick thinking I was being "funny and or slick" and the chick could've really liked me but I came off like a jackazz.) You have to ride the breaks sometimes.

It's one thing to be "c0cky funny" and another to be a c0cky dummy.
 

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Maybe she meant that she went to school in Columbia...i.e. the country best known for cocaine export.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
With woman, and especially in bars, momentum is everything.
I misspoke in the original post. We were out getting drinks together. I had number closed her a few days earlier.

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Until they're jumping on my pole, it's all talk.

Closing is your friend:
YES - I kiss closed but not f-closed. I will boo myself.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Uncharted said:
Talking to this girl at a bar, about 10 minutes into the conversation:

Me: so where did you go to school?
HB: Columbia
Me: You must be pretty smart then.
HB: Yes actually I was valedictorian in high school.. .blah blah (she goes on and on how she was in all these clubs and stuff and spoke at Columbia graduation)
Me: so you're a "smart" girl - (kind of giving a disapproving look)
HB: Well no not really
Me: well that's good - most smart girls I know are boring
HB: No I'm actually pretty dumb
Me: I thought you were smart
HB: Well no.. I mean.. do you like dumb girls?
Me: I like girls that are interesting.
HB: Well I'm smart but not too smart but I'm really interesting, is that OK?
Me: Maybe
LOL this is great stuff mad funny
 
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