"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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The Slvt Reflex.

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A few years ago I had my heart broken by a wonderful woman. In the process she said to me, "I just don't love you. I wish I did. If I could choose anyone to love it would be you... but for some reason I don't, I'm sorry, I don't understand either."

Next thing you know she is going with a dude who treated her like sh*t.

De ja vu?

So I decided to figure out what the hell was going on in these beautiful but rather messed up heads.

One of the most facinating discoveries has been what me and my mates call the "slvt reflex."

I'll give you an example of the slvt reflex in action (this happened to me on Friday night).

I was over at a friends house. He has a hot female friend staying with him. He's trying to bed her, but without much success. My mate pops out of the house for a minute to get some weed. The girl gets in the shower.

I've only met this chick briefly on two occasions. I haven't put any work on her as I know my mate has dibs. But as some of you know, when you have your inner game going you don't have to do anything to attract girls.

She comes out of the shower a few minutes later with a towel wrapped from the mingline to the nipple line and sits down on top of me.

I grab hold of her about the hips to let her know she had my attention.

She turns to me and says "You think I' m wh*re don't you?"

Until I came to understand the slvt reflex I would have been stumped by that. It seemed a rather strange thing to bring up when you are covered only by a towel sitting on the lap of a guy you bearly know in another guys house...

But I'd come across this kinda thing before. Most famously a one night stand moaninging ecstatically DURING sex "I'm such a slvt. I'm such a slvt..."

Weird as.

So when this girl asks me if I think she's a wh*re I knew the correct response was, "Actually I respect a girl who is confident enough to express her sexuality."

She had triggered the slvt reflex. I needed to turn that switch off.

Whenever women cross a line in initiating sexual intimacy they trigger the slvt reflex.

For thouands of years women's sexuality has been brutally controlled by society (pick whatever society you like and when I say society I mean society not just men... don't worry I'm not a feminist).

So we have thousands of years of culture and oppression sitting like Jubba the Hut on every girls secret desires.

In most cases girls are not even aware they have this brainwashing exerting such massive pressure against them expressing their natural (and very beautiful) urges. They internalise these taboos against a woman being sexual and no amount of Sex in the City will cure them.

But they still wanna have sex, lots of it, the naughtier the better.

Our challenge as men is to liberate women from this oppression by giving them the freedom they yearn for.

How do we do this?

The answer to this I think will help a lot of you boys in the friendzone.

We make it happen.

The MAN needs to take responsibilty for any sexual activity that takes place.

The funny thing I have noticed is the more "liberated" and "empowered" a woman is the more the guy needs to be the sexual instigator (why I do not know).

One night I was out with a high powered career woman (who was also a former lover) complaining about having not had sex for a while (this girl is a 9.5 on the looks 10 on everything else btw... they are out there!). I said "Let's have sex." She responded with the words, "lets see how it goes... no promises." We had a great night and then when it was time to go home she invites me back to her place. Then says, "but this doesn't mean we are having sex."

"Of course not." I reply. When we got to her house I grabbed her and let her know (with deeds not words) in no uncertain terms that we WERE having sex. She melted. She wanted sex the entire time but she still felt the need to say no sex to avoid triggering the slvt reflex.

And that's where a lot of us go wrong. We wait for the girl to give us a *sign* to make a move. What we don't realise is that just giving us a guys a sign that we understand will automatically trigger the slvt reflex.

A woman needs to feel (or most do at the beginning) that it "just happened." that is was "meant to be" or that the guy was so sexy/passionate/horny/sweet that she could not resist.

It is our responibilty as men to create this situation then make it happen.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Im liking your post's so far jay jay.....you seem like a down to earth cat.... props
 

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I agree with your whole post. Infact I'm impressed with the lines, so I'm gonna borrow them from you.

There is one tid bit I'd like to throw in though. While the slvt reflex is there, there are also signals of disinterest. With drunk girls especially, I think it's probably better to be on the cautious side, and not be too forceful.

I mean I'm a marketing consultant, basically a salesman, I can shove products down peoples throats through the phone (I wish I was as good at picking up girls, but I'm not there yet . . .) without them haning up, I can also be pretty persuasive in person.

I'm sure there are other aspiring DJs like me out there, so while you posted some good info, please consider this a disclaimer.

:nono: BEWARE OF BUYER'S REMORSE :nono:

-E.Nigma
 

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Hey man great post, could not have said it better myself. Hey man I like that girl you had the ONS with. Moaning I am such a slut....... LOL You made me laugh out loud.:rockon:
 

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Where in DJ Bible can I read about the inner game?


You talk about women not giving signs, but that girl DID come to sit on your lap, right? That other one DID say she wants sex!

If a girl makes no such signs whatsoever then she probobly doesn't like you.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I agree completely that it's the MAN's job to keep stepping things up, one notch at a time... I had never thought of it the way you did... nice.

MisterNigma - Just like you said you can force a product down someone's throat... if you game like a salesman just do the same thing except that you are selling your d!ck... You can go pretty far before a girl will have a change of heart about sex...

Buyers remorse on the other hand... who cares if she's lost interest the next day, I mean you already got what you wanted out of the deal... and well, there's no refund on a deep d!cking anyway... she knew what she was getting into.
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Babnik - I see what you're trying to say about those girls giving signs... it's a subtle difference, but in those cases I think that falls more in the category of tests...

First girl "do you think I'm a wh*re" is testing 1 - is it ok if I am a ***** and 2 - can you handle it?

Second girl says "I need sex" (in this one, she might have told 20 other friends) she is testing 1 - are you gonna get all bent out of shape at the idea of sex, 2 - can you get me turned on enough to make it happen.
 

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Actually, this is an old concept called ASD.

Anyhow, all you have to do to get girls to do ANYTHING these days is reframe it as being "independent and liberated." This is how Freudian mob psychologist Edward Barnays (Freud's nephew) got women to first start smoking decades ago. Before then, it was a disgusting, taboo habit - and especially unladylike. Immediately after his reframing in the mass public though - women start smoking like chimneys.

Ironically, they were the farthest thing from being "independent-minded" by being so easily manipulated.

People are such braindead lemmings...lol. :crackup:
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I have a different theory about HOT WOMEN, though. Since they are so used to being chased constantly, you actually want to let them chase you. They must feel like they are chasing you, otherwise you feel like every other guy and not a PRIZE anymore.
 

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Jay Jay said:
the "slvt reflex."

The MAN needs to take responsibilty for any sexual activity that takes place.

(why I do not know).

"Of course not." I reply. When we got to her house I grabbed her and let her know (with deeds not words) in no uncertain terms that we WERE having sex. She melted. She wanted sex the entire time but she still felt the need to say no sex to avoid triggering the slvt reflex.

It is our responibilty as men to create this situation then make it happen.
Large and in control. Man, that's the way to do it!:cheer:

And, I'll tell you why. They LOVE it too. God made them that way. But, they move with motives, I tell you. If they play, primp, bat their eyes, delay your play, there's ulterior motives. :flowers: ON YOU! Trust me on that one. Bet you're still thinkin' on her when you're alone and your hand is full:crackup: :crackup::crackup: :crackup:

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If you gets no respect you gives no respect :rockon:
 

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I give you mad props for this post. I read it yesterday. So tonight, a girl im seeing called me and wanted to meet up for a bit at her place. We had a few beers, and decided to hang out at my place for awhile and play some cards. (her idea to play cards, my idea to go to my place). So were playing cards, and drinking a few, and we start some "interaction" :up:. We got to the point in making out where its either clothes off, or go home. She said she was ready to go home, and she put her shoes on. She kind of stared at the floor for a minute, and i asked her what she was thinking. She said she didnt know, or something, and kind of had a "slvt reflex" kind of aura about her. So I used your line saying "You know, i respect a girl who is confident in expressing her sexuality". I just kicked back, she looked at me, and I said "just let whatever happens happen". She said "ok", I took her hand, and gave it a light pull toward me, she came toward me, we started making out again, and within 20 minutes we were tearing the pillows off the couch. Excellent advice. Read it, learn it. :up:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Jay Jay, luck one.
I usually get "Let's have it" "I want it" "I need it" "I want something but..." :(
A slut reflex is funnier :D
 

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Nice post, very similar to the Venusian Arts Handbook.

Mystery calls this the ASD.

Anti-Slvt-Defense.

Women need plausible deniability, or they just won't go for it. Men MUST ALWAYS be the one to take full responsibilty, or nothing will happen.

I like your line about a woman who can express their sexual feelings or something, i think i'll use that if the need arises.
 

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Apologies.

This was one of the first posts I made here. Like most newbs I just jumped on the forum and started spouting without looking at the tips section and the Bible.

I thought I got away with packaging an already thought up idea but it came back to bite me on the arse. Damn!

Yep; the slvt reflex is really ASD (which is a way cooler name).

I guess the only thing I can say is that when lots of people observe the same thing it must be real.

Cheers for the props guys. Glad I helped some of you dudes out.

JJ
 
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