The single most important thing...

[mikey2012]

Everyone knows the one who needs the relationship the most is the weakest. The one who cares less and is willing to walk away has the power. Even if you she dumps you and you were indifferent, also walked away and not emotionally invested she still had the power, because she dumped you first. She took the initiative to rid you first.
Most guys will stay in a relationship until they are dumped. Its a fact that in 82% of divorces, women initiate the seperation.

So its not just about willing to walk away...be the first to...this will keep your game sharp. You need to practice exerting your power.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

Everyone knows the one who needs the relationship the most is the weakest. The one who cares less and is willing to walk away has the power. Even if you she dumps you and you were indifferent, also walked away and not emotionally invested she still had the power, because she dumped you first. She took the initiative to rid you first.
Most guys will stay in a relationship until they are dumped. Its a fact that in 82% of divorces, women initiate the seperation.

So its not just about willing to walk away...be the first to...this will keep your game sharp. You need to practice exerting your power.

True.I wish I would read this half year ago.I went through biggest trauma in my life and it's because I ignored all the red flags.It was so obvious it is coming and yet I refused to see it.

ALWAYS SEE THE TRAIN COMING. GET AWAY.
Women are very simple creatures, they will always give red flags. ALWAYS ****ing see it, and accept it.

 

[mikey2012]

True.I wish I would read this half year ago.I went through biggest trauma in my life and it's because I ignored all the red flags.It was so obvious it is coming and yet I refused to see it.

ALWAYS SEE THE TRAIN COMING. GET AWAY.
Women are very simple creatures, they will always give red flags. ALWAYS ****ing see it, and accept it.

We choose to ignore these red flags because we think they are

i) a one off
ii) we have no other options and choose to accept it
iii) think it's nothing or no big deal since we getting laid
iv) we get lazy and comfortable
v) lack the strength to make a proactive decision and just go with the flow until she dumps you
Vi) choose to ignore it hoping she will changE
Vii) make excuses up for her to justify staying in the relationship


When you spot red flags have Zero tolerance and the walk away otherwise you will get deeper and it will be more difficult.

Some weak betas will do anything to stay in a relationship. For example if she cheated on you and she asks forgiveness they will stay with her. He'll cheating isn't even a red flag it's an instant dismissal. They will make all sorts of excuses saying she was corrupted by the other guy .. It wasn't her fault she was drunk ... Fact is a cheater will always be a cheater.... You need to eject and walk away..zero tolerance

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

We choose to ignore these red flags because we think they are

i) a one off
ii) we have no other options and choose to accept it
iii) think it's nothing or no big deal since we getting laid
iv) we get lazy and comfortable
v) lack the strength to make a proactive decision and just go with the flow until she dumps you
Vi) choose to ignore it hoping she will change
When you spot red flags have Zero tolerance and the walk away otherwise you will get deeper and it will be more difficult.

My red flags :

sudenly

- getting distant
- showing disrespect
- not so nice anymore
- flaking
- blaming

Women do this for you to get the idea she wants you out of her life.They
don't want to make traumatic breakup - they just want you to silently disappear.

And you know what ? DO IT.

And it will create a huge blow in her mind.

 

[mikey2012]

My red flags :

sudenly

- getting distant
- showing disrespect
- not so nice anymore
- flaking
- blaming

Women do this for you to get the idea she wants you out of her life.They
don't want to make traumatic breakup - they just want you to silently disappear.

And you know what ? DO IT.

And it will create a huge blow in her mind.

Red flags to her personality

1) blaming previous bfs
2) lying
3) asking you to buy stuff for them. A high class girl never asks you to buy anything for them. Even if you do, they may decline your gift etc or be embarrassed to take it
4) having lots of guy friends on FB etc
5)nitpicking you
6) starting arguments
7) criticizing you for no reason

 

[GS750]

What if...she ends it. But then tries to keep you around as the fallback guy or backup or as a "friend" which we all know is bullsh*t. And then you reject that noise and disappear. Sort of dump her back if that makes sense. Who has the power? I'd say you've taken at least some of it back, or at least bruised her ego. Refuse to be her safety net, which is what she wants if she's trying to keep you in her life.

 

[JohnyTheArrow]

What if...she ends it. But then tries to keep you around as the fallback guy or backup or as a "friend" which we all know is bullsh*t. And then you reject that noise and disappear. Sort of dump her back if that makes sense. Who has the power? I'd say you've taken at least some of it back, or at least bruised her ego. Refuse to be her safety net, which is what she wants if she's trying to keep you in her life.

No.

You lost game of power when she dumped you first.You lost even more if you begged her to come back.The only way to restore power is if she comes back on knees but it is not going to happen.

Trying her to keep you is not restoring power because it is mercy.Power is restored only if your demands - namely coming her back - are 100% met.If not, you are getting only scraps off the master table like a good dog.

 

[GS750]

Yeah...I can see that. But I see guys staying friends with exes all the time. It's sad really. Trying to keep a foot in the door.

 

[captain55]

Everyone knows the one who needs the relationship the most is the weakest. The one who cares less and is willing to walk away has the power. Even if you she dumps you and you were indifferent, also walked away and not emotionally invested she still had the power, because she dumped you first. She took the initiative to rid you first.
Most guys will stay in a relationship until they are dumped. Its a fact that in 82% of divorces, women initiate the seperation.

So its not just about willing to walk away...be the first to...this will keep your game sharp. You need to practice exerting your power.

Totally disagree with this. Worrying about walking away first shows that you care too much about what she thinks of you. I could give two ****s if a girl respects me.

If Im dating a gorgeous chick and I know the relationship is going to end soon Im going to ride it out as long as I can so I can keep ****ing her as long as possible. Sure I can walk away with my dignity by dumping her first, but I also might be turning down another month/couple weeks of great sex.

It really depends on how hot the girl is...if shes a 9/10 and you know she's the best your going to do for a long time ride it out.

 

[sylvester the cat]

If Im dating a gorgeous chick and I know the relationship is going to end soon Im going to ride it out as long as I can so I can keep ****ing her as long as possible. Sure I can walk away with my dignity by dumping her first, but I also might be turning down another month/couple weeks of great sex.
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...and that is why we spin plates...or at the very least have a back up waiting in the wings...

your ego is going to take a tremendous hit if you got dumped first, you knew it was coming and you did nothing about it. not to mention the fact that if she is on the way out withdrawal of sex is going to be one of the first signs.

 

[captain55]

No.

You lost game of power when she dumped you first.You lost even more if you begged her to come back.The only way to restore power is if she comes back on knees but it is not going to happen.

Trying her to keep you is not restoring power because it is mercy.Power is restored only if your demands - namely coming her back - are 100% met.If not, you are getting only scraps off the master table like a good dog.

I have gotten back with exes who I made myself look like a complete beta in front of after going ghost for a while. You can get down on your knees and beg for her with your knee in the mud while she gets in her car with her new boyfriend, but if she sees you with some hotter chick in a couple months she'll forget it ever happened. Trust me...women have very short memories.

 

[GS750]

Good point. Especially if the guy ends up screwing her over or turns out to be a complete douche. She may come running back. Every situation is different.

 

[sylvester the cat]

I have gotten back with exes who I made myself look like a complete beta in front of after going ghost for a while. You can get down on your knees and beg for her with your knee in the mud while she gets in her car with her new boyfriend, but if she sees you with some hotter chick in a couple months she'll forget it ever happened. Trust me...women have very short memories.

If you're capable of getting a hot chick why on earth would you wait until you get dumped to hook up with her instead of dumping your gfriend who's looking for a way out and hooking up with her then?

 

[captain55]

If you're capable of getting a hot chick why on earth would you wait until you get dumped to hook up with her instead of dumping your gfriend who's looking for a way out and hooking up with her then?

double post..whoops

 

[captain55]

If you're capable of getting a hot chick why on earth would you wait until you get dumped to hook up with her instead of dumping your gfriend who's looking for a way out and hooking up with her then?

Are you referring to guys in general or me? In my situation it was with a very hot BPD, so the breakup came out of the blue I didn't even have time to think about lining up something else nor was I looking. She left me a week before we were about to move in together.

As for regular women where you can usually tell the breakup is coming well ahead of time, I think a lot of it comes down to pure laziness. Still gotta put yourself out there and guys tend to let themselves go a little bit in relationships once they know they have a guaranteed piece of ass to come home to every night. Getting a hot chick requires you to be on your A game and look your best and that takes a lot effort....

I know Im not telling you anything you dont already know but you know where Im going

 

[mikey2012]

Totally disagree with this. Worrying about walking away first shows that you care too much about what she thinks of you. I could give two ****s if a girl respects me.

If Im dating a gorgeous chick and I know the relationship is going to end soon Im going to ride it out as long as I can so I can keep ****ing her as long as possible. Sure I can walk away with my dignity by dumping her first, but I also might be turning down another month/couple weeks of great sex.

It really depends on how hot the girl is...if shes a 9/10 and you know she's the best your going to do for a long time ride it out.

One should only date hot girls. All of them should be 9's. Why would you compromise and date a 7/10 before waiting for a 9 to come along. It's 9's or nothing. When you spin plates they should all be 9s in you eyes. Otherwise why bother?

Also its not about walking away first. Men usually don't dump women first. Its the other way around. Why is that? Because they probably have more options than you have plates, which means they have the power. If you had 10 plates spinning, you might just dump one or two even if they were 9's.

 

[mikey2012]

What if...she ends it. But then tries to keep you around as the fallback guy or backup or as a "friend" which we all know is bullsh*t. And then you reject that noise and disappear. Sort of dump her back if that makes sense. Who has the power? I'd say you've taken at least some of it back, or at least bruised her ego. Refuse to be her safety net, which is what she wants if she's trying to keep you in her life.

She still has the power because she rid you first. I think a lot of the times the guy still wants to be friends with her coz he thinks he might have a chance to get back with her. I've never had a woman ask me to be her friend after I had been dumped.

Unless she came back on her knees begging like another poster said, then you don't have the power. If you take her back she still has the power, because you took her back. Its only when you she begs and you walk away that you regain a piece of that power back.

 

[captain55]

She still has the power because she rid you first. I think a lot of the times the guy still wants to be friends with her coz he thinks he might have a chance to get back with her. I've never had a woman ask me to be her friend after I had been dumped.

Unless she came back on her knees begging like another poster said, then you don't have the power. If you take her back she still has the power, because you took her back. Its only when you she begs and you walk away that you regain a piece of that power back.

Why do you care though? Once a woman dumps you there is no taking her back period, so who has the power means nothing.

 

[VladPatton]

If she dumps you out of the blue, or seems like you've just been blind-sided, your one and only saving grace is to agree and amplify right there on the spot. Do not attempt to grasp at any straws or salvage anything at this point. She has the lead. She started a domino effect and it's irreversible. At this point, it's DEFCON 1. Hit the button. The big shiny red one. Grab your balls with one hand, and with the other lay that fücking mushroom cloud. Put on your anti-radiation suit and bounce, homes. Agree with her, and never look back. Save some integrity, it's your only option.

 

[Jackreacher20144]

If she dumps you out of the blue, or seems like you've just been blind-sided, your one and only saving grace is to agree and amplify right there on the spot. Do not attempt to grasp at any straws or salvage anything at this point. She has the lead. She started a domino effect and it's irreversible. At this point, it's DEFCON 1. Hit the button. The big shiny red one. Grab your balls with one hand, and with the other lay that fücking mushroom cloud. Put on your anti-radiation suit and bounce, homes. Agree with her, and never look back. Save some integrity, it's your only option.

99% of ppl wont do this! They beg and plead and think of way to get her back. Its difficult just to walk especally if you been emotionally invested. Very few ppl will just walk without making noise.