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The Short Phone Calls: She gets pissed

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Hey guys i know about how your calls should be short and no longer than around 15 minutes or whatever. So whenever i make the calls short my girl starts to get all pissed. Can you shed some light into how to keep her from gettin upset?
 

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lol i hate when people say that

man its kinda the point to make em upset. well not the point, but them getting upset is a good sign bcoz it just means that they wanna stay on the phone with u

u'd be more worried if she was glad that u were going

it leaves her wanting more

my girl always gets upset when i get off the phone with her, but i make up some excuse that i have to do some really important **** (make it up)
 

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Originally posted by dyce
lol i hate when people say that

man its kinda the point to make em upset. well not the point, but them getting upset is a good sign bcoz it just means that they wanna stay on the phone with u

u'd be more worried if she was glad that u were going

it leaves her wanting more

my girl always gets upset when i get off the phone with her, but i make up some excuse that i have to do some really important **** (make it up)
true, I get real tired of talking to girls for hours on end/ I like to keep it short and sweet. always leave them wanting more.
 

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Originally posted by Colinski282
some light into how to keep her from gettin upset?
Is this a joke? Your 20 and in your sexual prime, you should have as many skanks on the go as possible, why would you even give a fvck?

Shes upset? So fvcking what? I'll let you in on a secret, no chick throughout history has ever dumped a guy for not being her phone buddy, your a man its not your job. A man which means you hate the phone anyway, end of story.

Pffft "How do I keep her from getting upset?" :rolleyes:

Make it up to her by letting her suck your d!ck more often.
 

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you dont have to follow every rule, you are allowed to stay on the phone if you want to.
however , if you need to get off the phone, make it short and sweet and go. she will get over it.
 

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Originally posted by Colinski282
Hey guys i know about how your calls should be short and no longer than around 15 minutes or whatever. So whenever i make the calls short my girl starts to get all pissed. Can you shed some light into how to keep her from gettin upset?
Every situation is different. I hope that you dont have a timer sitting next to your side and when the buzzer goes off after 15 min, you tell the h0 good bye :D

Dont cut the convo off fast if your busy busting on her or having a good time laughing .... when the convo starts to dry up - YOU be the one who says "GTG"
 

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Re: Re: The Short Phone Calls: She gets pissed

Originally posted by TxCowboy

Dont cut the convo off fast if your busy busting on her or having a good time laughing .... when the convo starts to dry up - YOU be the one who says "GTG"
Not good advice, leaving the b!tch on a high note is far more effective. George Costanza style.
 

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WTF is there to talk about that takes 15 mins ?

phone calls should be to set up meetings , or justa quick hey hows it going? whats been hapening ?

you keep up these phone call relationships and they will do your head in and as you have already learnt she is dependant on it , so keep all phone calls light in conversation and short
 

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Re: Re: Re: The Short Phone Calls: She gets pissed

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Not good advice, leaving the b!tch on a high note is far more effective. George Costanza style.
you dont always have to do that , but its good to do this the majority of the time
 

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The thing about rules, they can be broken. Go nuts, but you know when to shut up and end the call, at the same time, don't be a **** about it. Don't start some in-depth convo to go 'g2g, bs reason'.

That'll make her feel just so warm inside. With anger.
 

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Originally posted by Docs
The thing about rules, they can be broken.
Rules? Not really a rule though is it? its more like common sense. Men are more action orientated by nature, Chicks can and will dribble sh!t on phones for hours on end, this is just how they are. Women can have emotional needs met via the phone that men simply do not possess, b!tches want mystery and talking for prolonged periods of time via the phone is counterproductive to that.

Like I said, it shouldnt be a "rule" more like add all the above together and its common sense. Long conversations with intimate partners should be few and far between and done sparingly in my opinion , but not just for the no brainer repercussions mentioned above, more for the fact of why? More importantly why would any man WANT to do it anymore than once in a blue moon, I'd guess he would be lacking something OR imitating something hes not.
 

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Who cares if she gets pissed? Too bad. She can talk to you all she wants in person...
 

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are long (1-2 hrs) phone calls a night good for ltr's?

u both want to talk to each other and miss each other so its alright isn't it

thhough sometim,es i reckon u could just keep it short and sweet (15-30 mins) to make her want u more, but not too often

this a good idea?
 

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^

Trust me. You'll get sick of it. Start cutting them short while you still enjoy talking on the phone generally.
 

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A girl thing

I had a girlfriend once who asked me the same thing. I just told her that I didn't like talking on the phone.

Just tell her that you just don't like talking on the phone. That you are a man and that quite a few men don't. Ask her if she is looking for a «girlfriend or soulmate» to which she would want to talk to or if she prefers the relationship of a man.

Tell her that if she wants to talk on the phone that she should take time to nurture her friendship with her girlfriends who will be glad to indulge her.

I suggest that you brake the mold right now and make this rule clear. Do not fall into the trap of trying to cater to her need in that aspect. Who are you? Can you allow yourself to be pushed around by that gal?
 

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Originally posted by flexion_
Who cares if she gets pissed? Too bad. She can talk to you all she wants in person...
and if she doesnt want to talk to you in person, she's not worth your time ...
 

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(.)(.) is like, my favorite poster on this board.
 
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