"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The schedule dance

Wilko

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A buddy and I were swapping notes on just how painful and tedious it can be trying to schedule a date with the average woman. You know how it goes, IL seems high, iron is hot, time to strike:

You: Friday, Bar-X, 8 PM, you in?

Her: I'd love to but I'm babysitting for my sister that night... but I'm free for lunch on Saturday if you're interested (said no woman ever, bahahahaha).

Now that's what should happen, it's what any competent adult would do in that situation, buuuut the average guy will have to offer round after round of different ideas over a week or two until he chances on some particular combination that works for her.

Doubtless some of it comes down to IL, but I've met and banged some women after enduring the aforementioned bullsh!t. I'm inclined to think that most women have the organisational abilities of sugar-addled toddlers.

It makes me wonder how girls manage to organise any kind of get together among themselves? I think it's a damn interesting question. It's also worth asking if girls flake on each other the way they do with guys. Anyone got any intel? An inside source?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Scheduling a date is neither painful nor tedious. It is rather instant. Your buddy and you should swap notes on finding girls who come up with better excuses than babysitting for their sister. Their sister is probably a lot older than you think.

Round after round of different ideas???? If she says no to the first idea you find another girl, you don't send "round after round of different ideas over a week or two".

You've banged women after enduring weeks of them blowing you off? You mean you drugged and raped them?

You're asking if girls flake on girls? No, girls like their girlfriends. You don't need intel from an inside source to know that girls don't avoid things they want to do. You're getting them to say they will go, you are not getting them to go. You need to raise their interest level to the point where they ask you out.

Something is way off.
 

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Facepalm. I swear the majority of SS posters can't grasp a concept unless it's completely literal.
 

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I get what you mean. juggling schedules can certainly be tricky.

What I have noticed...

NOs...
1. If she doesn't counter, I MAY hit her up at a later time and try one more time. Quick texts, then ask for another date.
2. If she gives me something lame, like "I have to clean or do errands" or something that indicates she has the time, but doesnt want to... that is an immediate next

YES...
1. She will accept and maybe offer alternate time or place. As long as it doesn't involve further travel, I may go for it...
2. She will counter with another date. To me, this is good. If I can't make it work, I will engage in small talk throughout the next couple days, then try again the following week. I will get a date with these women eventually...
 

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Women are too emotional to set rational schedules. Babysitting, sudden call to work, headaches... these flake excuses are nearly always lies. Some emotional trigger happened, and they can't be honest to save their fvcking lives.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Women are too emotional to set rational schedules. Babysitting, sudden call to work, headaches... these flake excuses are nearly always lies. Some emotional trigger happened, and they can't be honest to save their fvcking lives.
Here's something rational; the emotional trigger is the better looking guy she wants to ask her out but he doesn't.
 

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The one I had last week got flakey because work was too stressful and she was upset with a family member. But the excuse she gave me had to do something with her phone not working. It wasn't until our date finally happened after all her flakey-ness that the real story came out of her being emotionally stressed.

If you are having problems pinning down a time. Then tell her ok, maybe next week some time. When next week comes around give her 2 choices. If she wants to go out, she'll pick one. If not, then onto the next chic.
 

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A buddy and I were swapping notes on just how painful and tedious it can be trying to schedule a date with the average woman. You know how it goes, IL seems high, iron is hot, time to strike:

You: Friday, Bar-X, 8 PM, you in?

Her: I'd love to but I'm babysitting for my sister that night... but I'm free for lunch on Saturday if you're interested (said no woman ever, bahahahaha).

Now that's what should happen, it's what any competent adult would do in that situation, buuuut the average guy will have to offer round after round of different ideas over a week or two until he chances on some particular combination that works for her.

Doubtless some of it comes down to IL, but I've met and banged some women after enduring the aforementioned bullsh!t. I'm inclined to think that most women have the organisational abilities of sugar-addled toddlers.

It makes me wonder how girls manage to organise any kind of get together among themselves? I think it's a damn interesting question. It's also worth asking if girls flake on each other the way they do with guys. Anyone got any intel? An inside source?
Since none of us are chicks we really can't answer. Chicks can't even answer as they aren't the specific chick let alone do they know what they are doing at X time and might have other shyt going on.

I've never had a problem with a chick giving the runaround other than once that I can remember. But I handled it as in I offered twice. First time an excuse that wasn't valid. Gave one more chance and never heard back but had deleted her number, went out with friends and moved on. No joke.

I don't chase friends to go out. Don't chase family. If I get the hint they can't make it or aren't interested it's something I'm doing regardless. When I do schedule a meet/ date etc? It's someplace I'm already going. they show. they show. they don't. they don't. When you have other things to do you just don't spend time trying to convince others as it's already a plan for myself in action. They get invited. Doesn't mean I'm changing plans if it's something I'm going to regardless. Same shyt everyone else does.
 
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