Ken785
Master Don Juan
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6159680253621883092
What do you guys think...
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"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
The Rules Of Seduction (Documentary VIDEO)
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
KarmaSutra
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As soon as that bloke "high fived" her I shut it off.
It's mechanical bullsh!t for the masses. Again, these tricks and tactics will work in the short term but does absolutely nothing to benefit you as a man in the future of his growth.
It's mechanical bullsh!t for the masses. Again, these tricks and tactics will work in the short term but does absolutely nothing to benefit you as a man in the future of his growth.
Ken785
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But dont you feel knowing how to "pull a woman in" using PUA tactics helps in attracting women? I mean, even if you are a "mans man" the girl isnt even going to be initially attracted or give you a chance if you dont have the outer game to attract her first...then when you are in a relationship, then you can let your inner game shine.KarmaSutra said:
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Inner game, young brother, is having the courage to hold your head high and proclaim your sexuality proudly and matter-of-factly. The lonliest of AFC's can walk up to a women and aske her if she's: "Seen that fight outside between those two girls?" This doesn't make you a mature, masculine man in control of his surroundings. It makes you a robot who can open a set.
Huge differences my man.
Huge differences my man.
Ken785
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Im talking about a girl wont even give you the time of day to even see that your the manliest of men unless you initially attract her first...using conversation starters and creative ways to open her and be funny and stuff..KarmaSutra said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
^i agree with ken
lets say you spot a girl that you believe is absoltuely stunning and you know right away that you want her.
however she's been hit on day after day by 'charming' and 'good looking' guys so her defenses are going to be up..
are you just going to walk around and strut in front of her and hope that she notices you? and lets say that you go in for the kill and talk to her, are you just going to say hi and hope all goes well? every other guy that has tried to pick her up has tried the same thing and failed miserably
pickup is not just about canned openers, there are many teachers out there who teach you to develop improvisational skills and come up with your own openers
lets say you spot a girl that you believe is absoltuely stunning and you know right away that you want her.
however she's been hit on day after day by 'charming' and 'good looking' guys so her defenses are going to be up..
are you just going to walk around and strut in front of her and hope that she notices you? and lets say that you go in for the kill and talk to her, are you just going to say hi and hope all goes well? every other guy that has tried to pick her up has tried the same thing and failed miserably
pickup is not just about canned openers, there are many teachers out there who teach you to develop improvisational skills and come up with your own openers
arakrazy
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Hi guys. Was browsing the internet for a recording of the show, and found this.
I vaguely know a couple of guys in the program. They're cool guys mostly, just trying to find happiness in life, just like the rest of us. And some of them are very good at what they do.
As for the talk of fakeness, techniques, openers...I'm sure it's all been previously discussed many times, on many forums.
My own opinion is that saying "Hi" and having a normal conversation should be enough, and the pinnacle of development as a healthy, mature, sexually attractive male. Picking up women should not be the sole purpose of your existence, and spending hours a day trying to perfect this "art" is not the best use of your time.
To think that our thousands of ancestors spent years of their lives learning lines is mind-boggling.
There shouldn't be "THIS ONE GIRL" that you have to suddenly stop, roll your eyes back into your head, and become this pickup guru in order to "GET HER!". Surely on first sight, you know nothing about the girl - she could be a mass murderer and professional scam artist for all you know.
However stunning you think she is, beauty is strictly a facade, as are many things in this world. Once you achieve the "success" of dating a beautiful girl, it won't fix any other issues you have with yourself, including how happy you are just spending time on your own (as was touched on in the program).
For me, I would say build a life that you enjoy, that other people are attracted to, and that you are proud of. Men and women will be flocking to spend time with you, BEFORE you even open your mouth, let alone after.
Really be happy with yourself, and then women will happily exchange, time, money and sex to be around you.
That's my opinion, anyway.
I vaguely know a couple of guys in the program. They're cool guys mostly, just trying to find happiness in life, just like the rest of us. And some of them are very good at what they do.
As for the talk of fakeness, techniques, openers...I'm sure it's all been previously discussed many times, on many forums.
My own opinion is that saying "Hi" and having a normal conversation should be enough, and the pinnacle of development as a healthy, mature, sexually attractive male. Picking up women should not be the sole purpose of your existence, and spending hours a day trying to perfect this "art" is not the best use of your time.
To think that our thousands of ancestors spent years of their lives learning lines is mind-boggling.
There shouldn't be "THIS ONE GIRL" that you have to suddenly stop, roll your eyes back into your head, and become this pickup guru in order to "GET HER!". Surely on first sight, you know nothing about the girl - she could be a mass murderer and professional scam artist for all you know.
However stunning you think she is, beauty is strictly a facade, as are many things in this world. Once you achieve the "success" of dating a beautiful girl, it won't fix any other issues you have with yourself, including how happy you are just spending time on your own (as was touched on in the program).
For me, I would say build a life that you enjoy, that other people are attracted to, and that you are proud of. Men and women will be flocking to spend time with you, BEFORE you even open your mouth, let alone after.
Really be happy with yourself, and then women will happily exchange, time, money and sex to be around you.
That's my opinion, anyway.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
Interesting documentary.
I've actually been to a boot camp a few years ago. I wasn't ready for it back then and it hasn't helped me. It was also all about night game and I just don't like going out at night.
When I get some more cash and a place of my own, I'm planing on doing a few more boot camps.
Until then the most important thing is to become fully confident in myself.
I've actually been to a boot camp a few years ago. I wasn't ready for it back then and it hasn't helped me. It was also all about night game and I just don't like going out at night.
When I get some more cash and a place of my own, I'm planing on doing a few more boot camps.
Until then the most important thing is to become fully confident in myself.
arakrazy
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Shame. I hope you progress.
I've realised that the most change I can make in myself is what I commit unfailingly to - and no outside source can make me permanently change if I honestly do not want to. If I don't change, it's because there is something that benefits me in my current behaviour - even if it's just the familiarity of doing what I'm used to, and achieving what I'm used to achieving.
Having been out during the night hundreds of times over the past 5 years, it is an amazing tool for practising how to be socially confident. Now that I can talk to almost anybody in a nightclub or bar, talking to someone on the bus or train or street or supermarket is so much less difficult. However, I'm also aware most people are more rushed during the daytime.
Definitely work on the confidence. And talk to lots of people; make lots of friends. Male and female. Young and old. Gay and straight. You will learn many more attractive things than single-minded perspectives taught by misogynstic geeks-turned-lotharios.
I've realised that the most change I can make in myself is what I commit unfailingly to - and no outside source can make me permanently change if I honestly do not want to. If I don't change, it's because there is something that benefits me in my current behaviour - even if it's just the familiarity of doing what I'm used to, and achieving what I'm used to achieving.
Having been out during the night hundreds of times over the past 5 years, it is an amazing tool for practising how to be socially confident. Now that I can talk to almost anybody in a nightclub or bar, talking to someone on the bus or train or street or supermarket is so much less difficult. However, I'm also aware most people are more rushed during the daytime.
Definitely work on the confidence. And talk to lots of people; make lots of friends. Male and female. Young and old. Gay and straight. You will learn many more attractive things than single-minded perspectives taught by misogynstic geeks-turned-lotharios.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Daddy The Pimp
Master Don Juan
BUMP. Interesting documentary.