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The Rules of Attraction and what it reflects - a doubt that needs to be resolved.

wise_mage

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hey everyone, I just saw the rules of attraction at the cinema. quite a good movie I must say, great direction. anyway,

the thing is this... I watched the movie with eagerness and perhaps a bit of nostalgia. when it ended, I ended of feeling depressed, not because of the plot and its characters but because of a much personal reason, unrelated to the movie.
the complete and total lack of sex in my life.

I am not from the United States though I am very familiar with its culture. my country is much more conservative than the US.
therefore I have intensly desired living there several times throughout my life.

now, back to the movie. it seems it is much easier to have sex over there. girls are more willing to do it and more open minded about it. anyone who has seen the movie will understand what Im saying. the dressed to get screwed party where topless girls wander around touching even the guys with excess fat, the girl who gets gangbanged by the football team, the girl who gives her proffessor a ******* and how the guy doesnt even have to work for it. getting laid is so easy over there in the US.

I believe this movie reflects reality, but Im not quite sure of it since I dont have any firsthand experience with such enviorment.
so people of the United States: does that movie reflect reality? is that the way it is in the united states?

if so, then the guys here from the US must really be socially handicapped. I have heard throughout people I have met from the united states and news stories from american tv shows that teenagers are ****ing in their schools bathrooms, that middleschool kids are even having oral sex within the classrooms while the class is going on. this is no joke , I heard this on dateline or 20 20 or 60 minutes or some show like that.
what about the girls gone wild videos and what they reflect.
people I have met from the US throughout my life tell me thse same kind of things. its easy over there. you dont have to work for sex. so what the hell must you guys be doing?

I am certain that if I lived in the US, I would be scoring all the time. and girls over there fit my estethic criteria much more than those here. I can put the blame enitrely on society since girls in my country **** as well, and there are guys who score left and right. but its much more difficult. especially when its all about status and looks. over there there is more justice. the girls are prettier, "sluttier" so to speak, and not as picky.

the lack of pu$$y in my life is driving me crazy. while watching the movie there were times where I wanted to cry because of how much sex the characters from the film were getting and hiow much I wasnt. I believe this was sparked by frustration.

girls are just so impossible to please, most are very out of touch with reality and think they deserve much more than what they do, but still over there its easier for an average guy to get laid with a cute girl. here, and above average guy such as myself is having enourmous problems with this in spite of being quite cool, socially speaking. Im perplexed by this.

gentlemen, if thats the way life is in the US then you must really be in trouble. Over there, I cant imagine a guy like me not getting laid and being rejected by so many women and their extreme pickyness if thats the way things really are.

women here, they are just ****ing crazy. everywhere, where getting laid becomes as difficult for us guys as quantum physics for a metally handicapped forrest gump, I suppose.
this is absurd. by mere logical sense I should be getting all kinds of pu$$y or in the worst case scenario getting some steady girlfriend rotation every once in a while, but Im getting zilch gentlemen. zero, nada, absolutamente f*cking nada, except rejection form women who think they re too good for me.

the rules of attacrion entretained me but gor me depressed as well. over there a guy like me would certainly be getting his fair share of women. It so damned easy over there. girls are so up for it. same thing with europe I guess. maybe even more over there.

as for me, Im a virgin but the closer I got to sex was over 3 years ago, when the last girlfriend I had gave me oral sex.
I already forgot how having a girlfriend is like and getting oralsex feels like. Im over 19, on my way to 20 in like 8 months. in the US people would probably laugh at me in college if they knew I was a virgin at such a high numbered age. by god, in 10 more years, a lot of women will be married a lot of others fat and unhealthy and the few cute single ones left will be sought after by many many men. getting laid gets harder as the years go by. I hope I can get a girfirend soon so I can lose my virginity. that would be cool.
and I hope I do make it as a rockstar someday to make up for all the sex I havent been getting.

by, the way, no Im not fat. Im muscular and excersise on a daily basis. I do not look to fulfill a void in my life with a girlfriend and do not think that a girl is what will make me happy. happiness comes from within and from the self. I do not act afc. I have hobbies. my life does not revolve around women. actually I wish there were more women around in my life. and I think all of my crappy moods are product of tension derived from lack of sex.
I think a lot of the rejection has to do with girls extremely high standards. god knows Im a good catch. I know Im a great catch.
but girls dont seem to think Im enough. same thing happens to tons of guys all the time. for them its never enough.
your looks are never good enough, and your status is never high enough. only 2 things most teeange girls really care about.
if we really cut the crap, and get to the bottom line, you`ll see that high social status and good looks are what young women really look for. and lets face it - brushing my ego aside I write the following with honesty - eventhough I am a good looking cool guy with a lot going on for me, I like cute hot chicks, and cute hot chicks get approached like thousands of times a day, and they have a lot to pick out of, and there are always guys who look better (resemble more to what the media says guys should look like), who rank higher on the status scale, etc. this is not low self esteem on my part for those of you thinking such, it is just plain honesty without the interference of the ego, which demands that I say that the girl is not approached by anyone who is a greater catch than I am. but the truth is there are always richer, bertter looking, taller (Im only 5`7 - girls like tall guys better) more talented guys approaching the same hot girl you are.
but in the US, there are more hot girls. even the geeks are hot and getting geeks is easier, and they are way cooler than high manteinance *****es. like in rules of attraction - the girl who killed herself, she was cute. I would have dated her. but over there she was just a geek.

well I guess I have said all that i wanted to say.
tell me what you think of it.
as for me, the only thing to keep on doing is to work hard on the short term to achioeve my long term goals of sucess.
aside from that, I really need the distaraction and fun a girlfriend provides. Id be a lot less crankier with it.
 

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Which country are you from?

Anyway, while the U.S. may be more liberal than wherever you are, Rules of Attraction was very much on the extreme side. I wouldn't say it's quite like that, and it's not quite as easy here as you think. Besides, DJing isn't just American, it's world-wide. I'm sure many DJs here would love the opportunity to DJ some unassuming "counservative" (pent-up) foreign chicks.
 

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i have seen the movie and love it. however, do not think this reflects the US. the whole movie takes place in a very style-ized world. its very extreme just for effect. although the US is likely more sexually liberal than where you from it is not how your imagining it from the movie.
 

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If it were that easy to get laid in the U.S. then we wouldn't have any American DJ's:)

Its a movie buddy. And by the way I don't care where you're from, this DJ stuff works on any women. Quit blaming your country for your lack of sex.
 

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Originally posted by wise_mage
I do not look to fulfill a void in my life with a girlfriend and do not think that a girl is what will make me happy. happiness comes from within and from the self. I do not act afc. I have hobbies. my life does not revolve around women.

... yadda yadda yadda....

aside from that, I really need the distaraction and fun a girlfriend provides. Id be a lot less crankier with it.
So you're not an AFC and you dont think a girls gonna make you happy... But you NEED the distraction a girl provides and would be less cranky if you had one.

Doesnt make sense to me.

DonJohn83

P.S. Read Pook's "Kill that Desperation"
 

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I saw that movie, too. I thought it was so self-indulgent and surreal that it really had nothing meaningful to say about how men and women relate.
And take it for what it's worth, but I find that European (particular Easten European) women seem quicker to go to bed than American women.
 

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Re: Re: The Rules of Attraction and what it reflects - a doubt that needs to be resolved.

Originally posted by kyokon
wtf... i havent seen it but the way you describe, it sounds like a porno
That's what *I* was thinking! :D

The only time I've seen that kind of gratituous sexuality is in pornos. Yeah, there are some freaky girls over here that are "ready to go" just about anytime, anywhere. America is a liberal culture, though, and women are made to feel "empowered" over here, so they can be a lot MORE b!tchy and choosy.

And the Girls Gone Wild stuff? Let's just say people will do strange things when money and a video camera are involved. Don't even THINK that that reflects the real world.

The grass is ALWAYS greener.
 

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This notion that American women are easier to get into bed than any other is really alot of garbage. What distinghuishes Americanized women from others is that they are spolied and have much higher expectations than other women I know. They are definitely harder to please and many have this "princess" attitude unlike other women from other countries.

I have travelled to many parts around the world and my take is that European women are more sexually open and less hang upon sex than the women here.

To master American women you have to know the game. Women from other countries are less into games, though I agree that DJism works on any girl regardless of where she is from.

When I was a law student I was part of a foreign exchange program that took me to Spain and France for 3 months. I got laid more times during that period than I did through my entire 3 years in law school in the US. I just saw a lot less game playing among the women. If you were attracted to them and they were attracted to you, it did not take much to get them into bed. Here, for some reason it is a different story. You may be attractive to a girl, but then she has to see whether you have a nice car, nice income, etc, before she would consider fycking you.

I do not know where you are from and I have not seen the movie, but it is some what of an illusion that women here are easier.
 
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