"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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The room mate is finally going...

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For some crazy reason she has done her best to not leave, (it's funny how the other room mate managed to find a place in a week!)

and I finally just got fed up man...we argued and fought a lot of the time and I always told her exactly what I thought of her,and told her having her move in was the biggest mistake of my life.

I don't think she has ever been called a ***** or a pretentious pain in the ass so much in her entire life...anyway I had to resort too some drastic tactics...well not that drastic all I did was rip up a photo of hers after I actually like an idiot tried too make peace with her...but it didn't work and she has finally got the message but speaking of messages I got this on my phone from her.


J it's K I am moving out of the house on the 6th of November and i am not living in the house while you are there
so i'm actually staying somewhere and that's it
and...and um I will deal with the ladnlord with everything else
and this is probably the last time I want to talk to you.


Probably?...why probably...I want nothing to do with you,you dumb *****, you cost me a 9 year friendship and have been lying about me and telling people I am psycho all because I have been doing everything in my power to make you move...goddddddd...

so yeah this weekend she leaves

:woo:

and I can assure you there is ZERO one itis here...

too be honest I'm not really fussed about chicks at the moment...I am to focused on School and some of them are just not worth the effort...if it happens sweet, if not oh well...it's not the end of the World.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Originally posted by Jaun_Don
Probably?...why probably...I want nothing to do with you,you dumb *****, you cost me a 9 year friendship and have been lying about me and telling people I am psycho all because I have been doing everything in my power to make you move...goddddddd...

so yeah this weekend she leaves

:woo:

and I can assure you there is ZERO one itis here...
You are analyzing the word probably after she told you she doesn't want to see you.

You are still writing about her every chance you get. There is no way you have zero oneitis here.

You care too much.

You are still mad that she fvcked your friend and not you. Its a good thing she is leaving and thus you can finally move on.

DjDamage
 

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Re: Re: The room mate is finally going...

Originally posted by DJDamage
You are analyzing the word probably after she told you she doesn't want to see you.

You are still writing about her every chance you get. There is no way you have zero oneitis here.

You care too much.

You are still mad that she fvcked your friend and not you. Its a good thing she is leaving and thus you can finally move on.

DjDamage
No...I am not ...I haven't been on here for weeks, yes I was curious about why she said probably...I don't give a **** who she has sex with, she KILLED the friendship we had...why do people find this so hard to understand?.

I don't care...she got everything she deserved...she is a liar, vindictive and she met her match with me.

That is all...I moved on from her months ago...I just never understood why she stayed for so long after everything.

You wouldn't make a very good shrink DJ Damage as you had me all wrong.
 

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GOD FVCKING DAMMIT SHUT THE FVCK UP! I HEAR ABOUT THIS SH!T EVERY FRIGGIN DAY IT SEEMS. NO-ONE CARES. JESUS H CHRIST.

Seriously, dont speak anymore. enough whining, enough complaining, enough analyzing. who cares anymore? I dont. I'm just glad she moved before one of you killed the other (or i killed both of you). Now seriously, go join a monestary or something, cause women are totally beyond your understanding.
 

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Hahhaahhahahaa

I was wondering when I was going to see one of your post.

What happen bro?

You said at the end of two weeks last month.

Now it’s November?? Hahah I think you owe me some money.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84845


I seriously doubt if she is actually going to leave.

And if she does I bet you some shyt is going down.

She stills has a key to YOUR place and is going to fvck something up before she’s gone or at least make your life a living h3ll before she goes.


And she didn’t cost you a 9 year friendship with your boy. YOU did!

You weren’t banging your roommate at all. You weren’t BF/GF just a roommate that is all.

Your buddy got more skill and game then you and game her like it was nothing. You got jealous and ended it.

Get over it!

And don’t sit up here and lie you don’t have any feelings for her. Read the link above people his own post says other wise. Not to mention your over analyzing what ever word spits out of her wh8reish mouth. And she knows this.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Re: Re: Re: The room mate is finally going...

Originally posted by Jaun_Don
,yes I was curious about why she said probably...I don't give a **** who she has sex with, she KILLED the friendship we had...why do people find this so hard to understand?.

Why would you be curious if you want nothing to do with her?? Why do you want to know?? Instead of shrugging your shoulders about everything she says and not even thinking about her, you want some sort of validation from her and everyone else that she is WRONG, and you are RIGHT.

You are blaming everything on her. All she did was fvck your best friend! and now she is responsible for ruining your friendship with him?? It was your response that killed the friendship with him, heck the right thing to do was to congradulate your friend that he got some and move on and find a girl for yourself.

You are obsessed with her.

Originally posted by Jaun_Don
You wouldn't make a very good shrink DJ Damage as you had me all wrong.[/B]
I am no shrink, but most shrinks do tell their patients: "Admitting that you have a problem is the first step to your recovery":cool:
 

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This guy's an idiot.....


It is your fault that your friendship with your friend ended... no one elses. He got the girl, and you were way too emotional to realize that he'd done nothing wrong... neither of them did.

Someone cyber-smack this guy upside the head, please. :rolleyes:

You come on here telling us this crap, which no one really cares about.... in some lame attempt at validating your actions.

You're in the wrong. It should be you who leaves the apartment, IMO.
 

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Nobody has anything against you here, people tried giving you advice that would help you. Instead of being in denial about it (please understand how "obvious" this is), LEARN from this and try and make better decisions to prevent it.
 

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I am not in denial about anything though...all I wanted was an answer as to why she has stayed on so long and why she would say that it's probably the last time she will ever talk too me...we are not friends and never will be and as the for the ex best friend there is more to it, he lied to me and showed his true colours and turned out to be a selfish *******...

I understand why some of the users on these boards get frustrated with me but the thing is I moved on a long time ago and I just wanted some opinions that was all...I'm not analyzing anything and I'm not jealous I just don't care...I never said sorry to her for telling her what I really thought of her and all the things I called her.

I said earlier that I'm not really interested in girls at this stage as I am focusing on my career and getting through school.

I don't think people understand this was one of the hardest things I have had to deal with, I lost a once good friend because of her, he changed after he hooked up with her and acted like a pathetic over protective Dad they also plotted to get me kicked out...I don't see how this was my fault.

I thought you guys would be happy that she is finally moving as she tried to kick me out and laid a complaint against me but it didn't stand...she is poison and very bad for my health and I have felt constricted by having her and then she turned the other room mate against me but I don't care as she is out too...we are just very different people and that's it, she is selfish a drama queen and acts like she runs the World.

Asking about the probably thing was me just saying "probably"?...why would you say that?, I have already told her I want nothing to do with her after she leaves...not only that after this "relationship" ends I won't have him as a friend anymore...and I hardly think that giving a girl an E and kissing her constitutes as game...come on really?.

I'm not whining, I was merely looking for opinions from good posters.

She burnt her bridges and made her bed...end of story...Period!

:)

peace
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Originally posted by Jaun_Don
I am not in denial about anything though...all I wanted was an answer as to why she has stayed on so long and why she would say that it's probably the last time she will ever talk too me...we are not friends and never will be and as the for the ex best friend there is more to it, he lied to me and showed his true colours and turned out to be a selfish *******...

I understand why some of the users on these boards get frustrated with me but the thing is I moved on a long time ago and I just wanted some opinions that was all...I'm not analyzing anything and I'm not jealous I just don't care...I never said sorry to her for telling her what I really thought of her and all the things I called her.

I said earlier that I'm not really interested in girls at this stage as I am focusing on my career and getting through school.

I don't think people understand this was one of the hardest things I have had to deal with, I lost a once good friend because of her, he changed after he hooked up with her and acted like a pathetic over protective Dad they also plotted to get me kicked out...I don't see how this was my fault.

I thought you guys would be happy that she is finally moving as she tried to kick me out and laid a complaint against me but it didn't stand...she is poison and very bad for my health and I have felt constricted by having her and then she turned the other room mate against me but I don't care as she is out too...we are just very different people and that's it, she is selfish a drama queen and acts like she runs the World.

Asking about the probably thing was me just saying "probably"?...why would you say that?, I have already told her I want nothing to do with her after she leaves...not only that after this "relationship" ends I won't have him as a friend anymore...and I hardly think that giving a girl an E and kissing her constitutes as game...come on really?.

Seriously if it was some other dude, yes I would have been a bit jealous but because it was my once best friend it was just hard to deal with...can you not understand this?

I'm not whining, I was merely looking for opinions from good posters.

She burnt her bridges and made her bed...end of story...Period!

:)

peace
 

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dont post again till she leaves. then, don't bring it up again. im willing to forget this ugly little chapter of Sosuave as long as i dont have to friggin hear about it anymore.
 

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Juan Don sent me a PM, but i'm only gonna reply here.

He asked if it makes me feel good to attack someone when I've got all my facts wrong?

Not sure why you can't just call me out without the PM, if I'm so wrong about all this.

I did not attack you... I told it like it is, from everyone else's perspective. I don't think i've got any facts wrong. i think that you are twisting the facts up in your head so that it appears that you are in the right. Everything they did wrong was only revealed as wrong (in your mind) after the fact that they got busy and you lost the girl.

jesus man, you've put an end to a longterm best friendship over some chick!!!

Best friends are hard to find.... remember that.


You didn't take this like a man. You could have learned something and come out a much stronger guy after all this, but you chose to be weak, and freak out, and mess things up... It's your fault.

The girl must have missed the part on the lease that said that she must sleep with you, and not the other guy, when she was signing it.
 

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Juan Don, from another thread about this:

My roomates have been sleeping together and i found out by going up to the bathroom and hearing them in the shower, needless to say i flipped out banged on the bathroom door and said you aren't any friends of mine, see I have suspected that something was going on for a while I was just waiting for them to have the ****ing balls to tell me.

Since when are people supposed to tell you everything that goes on in their private lives?

You suspected it? Then why did it upset you so much? She's just a girl, but you couldn't see past the image you built of her and you together and it clouded your judgement and still clouds it. You got hurt really bad, and now your trying to justify your feelings by pegging the blame on them, when they did absolutley nothing wrong.

*(Well, I would never risk messing up a living situation by sleeping with a roommate, but hey that's just me. This sorta thing happens more often then not, and often times, it ends badly)

So how am I getting the facts wrong...hmmmmm?
 

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Originally posted by The Bad Ass Canadian
Juan Don sent me a PM, but i'm only gonna reply here.

He asked if it makes me feel good to attack someone when I've got all my facts wrong?

Not sure why you can't just call me out without the PM, if I'm so wrong about all this.

I did not attack you... I told it like it is, from everyone else's perspective. I don't think i've got any facts wrong. i think that you are twisting the facts up in your head so that it appears that you are in the right. Everything they did wrong was only revealed as wrong (in your mind) after the fact that they got busy and you lost the girl.

jesus man, you've put an end to a longterm best friendship over some chick!!!

Best friends are hard to find.... remember that.


You didn't take this like a man. You could have learned something and come out a much stronger guy after all this, but you chose to be weak, and freak out, and mess things up... It's your fault.

The girl must have missed the part on the lease that said that she must sleep with you, and not the other guy, when she was signing it.
You are missing the point here this isn't even about what happened between them this is about HER, I can't live with her and I am pleased as hell that she is finally moving out, we DON'T get on at all.

I don't like her as a person, she lies and makes up **** about me, she is a pretentious ***** and superficial this is what it's about, she is finally going, when she has tried but failed to get me kicked out twice of my own place...we are just not the same type of people.

I got over them too and their thing a long time ago, please understand this and as for him, HE killed the friendship by being a selfish **** and only contacted me for money I owed him ($35) once 5 times in a day, living with him I saw his true colours he was a **** and supeficial as well...they are perfect for each other.

I was talking to a girl that knows her and can't stand her and she said she is a social ladder climber from hell and latches on to guys that pay her constant attention and have "status" ie they know lots of people and will take her too lots of things so she can be seen.:rolleyes:

They lied to me and that ****head use to put me down to impress her...is that a real friend?...I don't think so bro...the bottom line is you haven't been in my situation (or have you?) so you don't know what I have been through.

She has played so many games, caused a lot of dramas and I have no clue as to why she stayed on for so long when she wasn't welcome and we did was argue and fight...did you know that she lied too girls that called for me? or deleted messages that were left for me?...that's NOT games?...come on man.

I suspected it yes! and wished that they had had the balls to tell me then it wouldn't have been so messy.

lastly I never liked the way I reacted but I am only human dude.

I want nothing to do with either of them.

That's it...NO MORE

peace
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Originally posted by Big Eee Zee
GOD FVCKING DAMMIT SHUT THE FVCK UP! I HEAR ABOUT THIS SH!T EVERY FRIGGIN DAY IT SEEMS. NO-ONE CARES. JESUS H CHRIST.

Seriously, dont speak anymore. enough whining, enough complaining, enough analyzing. who cares anymore? I dont. I'm just glad she moved before one of you killed the other (or i killed both of you). Now seriously, go join a monestary or something, cause women are totally beyond your understanding.
Can I get an AMEN ? :D
 

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man this thread is really hard to tolerate, the amount of justifications and rationalizations are literally off the charts.

If my best friend hooked up with a female friend I was not interested in, I would congratulate him.

If my best friend hooked up with a female friend I was interested in him, I would probably feel similar to how you did (jealous, angry, although I would not act like a child)

So obviously you liked this girl. I did read your previous threads on this a couple months ago, but I don't remember the exact details of whether you actually admitted you liked this girl, or you played off your jealousy as anger towards them not divulging their relationship to you out in the open.

They didn't owe you anything in that respect. A budding relationship is a natural occurence. When you're getting closer to a girl...getting to know her better, it's one of those things that's so good unspoken. Your first instinct isn't to say "Ok we should really tell Juan Don about this..." because a growing attraction is usually unspoken until later stages. I know the circumstanced behind the whole situation sucked, but you also have to put yourself in their shoes.

It's just an unfortunate situation, what happens when feelings get involved. No one is TRULY wrong, it's just what happens happens. You shouldn't have acted to immaturely, and maybe ya...they didn't have to hide everything behind your back.

It sucks what's going on right now between this girl, but I think you'd be much better off just being honest with yourself. Realize that ya you did get jealous and acted immaturely. Don't try to justify your behaviour by giving vague instances if your ex-best friend being 'selfish' or whatever. All of our friends have been selfish at some point, all of us have been selfish sometimes for that matter. Don't start picking out their individual faults just because you guys had a run-in. Same goes for the girl. You keep trying to make her seem like the 'bad guy' by getting her friends opinion on what kind of person she is. Now although she's no saint, you're right, you can't just say "SHE'S A TOTAL B1TCH!!!" and pass all the blame to her while leaving you unscathed.

Fact is, you still care about her and what she says based on your analyzations on her words. If you didn't care you wouldn't even be posting here about her, or thinking "why is she doing this?" etc. It wouldn't even be on your mind.

This whole drama has escalated to the point where neither of you two are acting rationally. You're both being idiots at this point. Just cool off for now, and realize that it's okay that you still care for her. You did have feelings for her before (and may subconsciously still do) and shared a long friendship. It's a bad situation, but try to be the bigger man and not get into a heated battle. Remember, the opposite of love is indifference, not hate. Get her out of your apartment without raising a big fuss, and move on with your life because this situation has gotten out of hand.
 

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:mad: ohhhh for ****s sake she is back, she tells me last week that she won't be staying here while I am here and then she comes in this morning with her bags and ****?

She must enjoy the way i treat her something...
 
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