Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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The Rock vs. The Cushion

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Another thread got me thinking about the idea that what a woman WANTS is a Rock to lean on, but more importantly she always needs a Cushion to fall back on.

In other words, a womans actions are often dictated by the need for an airbag. A safety device. Something that assures her that she is DESIRED. She needs SECURITY. The Cushion trumps the Rock, even though the Rock is what she really desires.

Why is this?

Women place a high value on security. They tend to be risk averse creatures. A Cushion is safe. A Rock is unpredictable.

She also has an insatiable desire to keep her Ego Bank full. Orbiters will suffice in a pinch, but ideally this bank will be filled by someone with whom she shares intimacy.

And this is really the crux of branch swinging behavior. Until the Rock BECOMES the Cushion, she will often stay in a situation where she isn't happy.

It's important to keep this in mind when dealing with women.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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careful she might be using you as a "cushion" and the leather encased tattooed love boy over there on the crotch rocket as her "rock". :yes:
 

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Dear Str8up,
Yes an appropriate analogy,but backarsewards,you are using a cushion in the sense of being a safety device,a shock absorber,I would use it as a sign of luxury,a love couch if you like.....The rock is in every sense a reliable bollard that one may anchor ones life around,the Bible uses the word in this sense....How you can equate an orbiter,a Fvck Buddy with this is a little complex to grasp....What you are experiencing is a transition from Girls to Women......As women age they are increasingly exposed to Death,Poverty,loneliness this has a sobering influence,when additionally complicated with a decline in their ability to pull attractive men,anticipating an even further decline,they will often chose to live with the secure if boring Man,but their sexual urges are still there,like the Surf gradually making its way to the beach their needs subside,but every now and then they feel a primitive urge in their loins,and so,why not go back to the ex?he represents a different form of security,a known quantity,he is clean,knows which buttons turn her on,and wont get emotionally involved.A symbiotic relationship where everyone wins.
 

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WC2 said:
She comes back to me maybe twice a month for sex
Lucky you that you still get to bang your ex. That is one thing I wish I could still do with mine. Not that I want a relationship with her again, I just wish I could f*ck the sh*t out of her maybe twice a month or so. The sex is what I miss about my ex, and it drives me crazy that I can't have it with her anymore, since she's no longer willing to.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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taiyuu_otoko said:
in what way?
You're missing the point.

I'm not talking about a "rock" in the "strong man" sense, I'm talking about a "rock" as being the object of desire...lust....whatever.

Maybe "rock" is not the proper word, but "cushion" is. And that's where I am going with this.

My point was that women need assurance before making a move. They need to know that the object of their desire will be there to catch them so they don't fall. This is why a woman will cheat with a player, but she won't LEAVE unless she's sure of getting a relationship with her target.
 

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Once again we review Schedules of Mating.

The Rock = Good Genes, short term mating
The Cushion = Good Provider, long term mating

Rarely do the two exist within the same man. From a biological standpoint women have a tendency to be aroused more by the Rock during the peak of their ovulatory cycle, finding comfort and security in the Cushion in the down-cycle. Testosterone and adrenal levels spike in women during peak ovulation, facilitating breeding, and are replaced by high levels of Oxytocin, Estrogen and a variety of other hormones that facilitate feelings of comfort, nurturing and a desire for security in the post ovulation and menstruation periods.

The trick is to be the Rock on the up-cycle and the Cushion on the down-cycle.
 

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I think what you've described as being the "cushion" is not actually a cushion, it's not an airbag of sorts. In fact, I know it's not.

What you've described the cushion as her 'feeling desired, sense of security' are emotional needs women have. If the "rock" is their "object of desire/lust", they will seek their emotional needs from that person. It's not a 'want the rock guy, but fall back on someone else who's the cushion guy'. It's more like, if the "rock" guy doesn't eventually meet their emotional needs, that's when they move on to someone else. Generally speaking, it has nothing to do with falling or being a cushion, just as it wouldn't if it were a guy who wants a good looking woman but also wants no drama in his life. Doesn't mean he's going to fall back on some undesirable gal as a cushion just because she's relatively drama free.

In fact, the whole process starts with Girl meets Object of Desire, the physical presence being the very first thing she sees and which is what starts attraction to him. Without that first step, there is no furthering their contact together wherein she can explore to see if he's "relationship material" (i.e., meet her emotional needs) and bond.

Rarely do the two exist within the same man.
I wouldn't know that actual stats on that. But I'd argue that any "Good Provider" traits are more the product of learned behavior then DNA, and said traits can exist in any "Good Genes" guy given the proper societal mix of role models, upbringing, and his personal preferences.
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Rollo Tomassi said:
Once again we review Schedules of Mating.
Yes, but it doesn't stress the importance that women place on security. It only explains why women mate with various types of men and how that often means that they will obtain the seed of one and the resources of another, which I agree with.

Women tend to place a high value on security. This explains why a woman would be hesitant to leave a "sure thing" even if he is not her ideal mate. only when she has assurance that her new source of intimacy is willing to commit will she make the jump.
 

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STR8UP said:
Women tend to place a high value on security.
I agree, but why do you suppose this is?
 

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Rollo Tomassi said:
I agree, but why do you suppose this is?
Many reasons, one of them being that no amount of feminism or anything will change the fact that women are physically weaker and more vulnerable during certain time of their life (making babies) than men.

Femininity leans toward passivity (and passive aggressiveness) and risk aversion, whereas masculinity leans toward more overt aggressiveness and risk. It would make sense that women, being the more dependent sex, would place a high value on securing a new source of intimacy (or more correctly a commitment for intimacy) before letting go of what she already has.

It really makes sense why women would be prone to this branch swinging behavior when you look at it from this perspective. It's not bad or evil, it's just who they are.
 

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STR8UP said:
Many reasons, one of them being that no amount of feminism or anything will change the fact that women are physically weaker and more vulnerable during certain time of their life (making babies) than men.

Femininity leans toward passivity (and passive aggressiveness) and risk aversion, whereas masculinity leans toward more overt aggressiveness and risk. It would make sense that women, being the more dependent sex, would place a high value on securing a new source of intimacy (or more correctly a commitment for intimacy) before letting go of what she already has.

It really makes sense why women would be prone to this branch swinging behavior when you look at it from this perspective. It's not bad or evil, it's just who they are.
So are you justifying women being hors when they engage in branch swinging behavior?

let me ask it another way, is a woman who hangs on to her cushion before she commits to the rock (assume the rock will eventually commit to her) okay behavior?
 
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