"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The Recovering AFC (1st Rejection and fluff talk)

Badmannaz

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now i don't believe i was ever AFC but then i start reading the bible and the words..

-oneitis

-being nice just to be around

-emomtional tampon

they all got to me and then i realized i was AFC!!!

well it took me awhile and now i'm starting to do a couple fluff talks here and there and i even tried a pick up today (hardly a pick up)


1st girl HB:6

I was at the gas station and she started talking to me

(give her my debit card)
HB:lol don't u just love those pictures on the cards?? yea my grandfather has one on his

Now usually my regular AFCness would kick in and wouldn't say a damn word but i had just got from the gym and i was feeling confident for the 1st time in my life and i actually talked back

me:so...how long have you been working here?
HB:umm about x amount..
me:cool cool you like it???
HB:yeah it's pretty cool especially when.....blah blah blah (talking)
(grab stuff)
Me:well have a nice day
HB:eek:kay you too!! :)

i was like dayum!!! i see it like this...the more you talk to women the more those fears about em go away

2nd girl
(this is funny sh*T):crackup:

Okay so i'm in my car with my homies and we just got out of Seeing a movie and we were going back to his place to chill and on the way back i saw this HOttie i mean her face was a 8 but her body was a 10 so i give her a 9 straight up!!!

Me:eek:h Sh*t look at the honey over there
friend: DAYUM!!! she got a FAT.A$$ (nice a$$)

(i roll down my window)
Me:Hey Were you goin??

She looks around searching for were the voice was and spotted me and then she gives a look of :)rolleyes: not your way) she didn't even say anything she just kept walking :D

Friend:Dude you came at her all wrong i would have pulled her
Me: man if i was out of this car and asked her that i would have got some convo plus you didn't say anything so shut up
Friend: that b/c i let you have her

I knew my friend wouldn't have said anything...It was cool because i kinda liked getting rejected...I was actually speaking to her with a "It really doesn't matter what happens attitude"

but i can't wait to go to the club and i'm able to just approach all women...i'll have the attitude like "if i get rejected I.D.G.A.Sh*t cuz i didn't have her in the 1st place*
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Badmannaz

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but it's not that i'm happy gettin rejected but i'm happy that i actually tried and i didn't have the feeling of "what would have happend" that's what makes me happy and plus if you get rejected that doesn't mean your done with that particular girl you just have to come at her a better way
 

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Very, very seldom does PU from a car work. It just seems creepy.

Heck, as a guy I get creeped out whenever someone pulls their car up next to me and starts talking.

Its good you are "approaching" but I would invest my time in doing some good old fashioned street approaches (face to face, both people standing, broad daylight, public place) where the element of creepiness isn't so bad.

AFCs approach from cars all day long. Trust me, every where I went with my last LTR we would get it. She never, ever got approached sober and in broad daylight on the street.

Honks, rolling down the window and talking, cat calls, whistles, etc. are NOT approaches.
 

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lolz thanx for the Reply i knew i wasn't gonna get her and your absolutly right she gave me a "that guys creepy" look but it was cool (or not) it's something i normally wouldn't do so i guess it's better than nothing.
 

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The other problem about approaching from a car is that it is an action commonly associated in a girl's mind with men picking up prostitutes, or as you might say, 'curb crawling'.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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badmanaz..
whenever I think that Im getting scared about being rejected by women then I do the following to get another rejection and the fear instantly goes away.

I go to the any restaurant such as wendy's or macdonalds and go
to a female cashier.

cashier: what would you like to order"
me: convo number one
cashier: would you like something else?
me: I lower my voice and make strong eye contact with her conbined with little smile, and then I tell her, " yes I want your number".
I love to see their immediate reaction cause thats something they're not expecting. they start to smile, touch their her, make eye contact and all the other flirty moves you can think of.
most of them will say,
"I cant cause I have a boyfriend or Im married. " but when they tell you that they cant because they're at work then you got something going for yourself because all you have to do is ask her at what time she gets out of work.
I dont do this to get numbers cause most times I know Ill get rejected but Im amazed also because when I least expected some of them give me their number.
this is a nice and easy way to get the fear of rejection out of the way and still have a chance to get a number.
you are setting them up cause you know they are gonna ask you if you want something else. its their job to ask you that question and then boom you surprise her.
this method is called the "fast food rejection"
jejeje,
 

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I'm glad to see another man fighting his fears. Think of rejection like this. Think of yourself as a great guy ( which you are since you are here ). If you don't apporach her she would be missing out on a great guy. If she rejects you laugh and tell yourself ( each girl is pratice for the next girl ). Fear will say you can't do it, you look stupid, this girl is too good for you. Ignore fear and get out their, the more you be around women the more used to it you get and the better you can control yourself. Read Dj bible and good luck. :cool:
 
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