The Reason that AFC's exist - real life proof!

[positivity_injection]

so i went to a bar with one of my plates this weekend, and she invited a bunch of her friends.........one of which is a total AFC that i had met before 6 months earlier

he is 28, had a 9yr relationship end when his girl dumped him rather nastily 7 months ago, and currently he is a state of the art AFC who pays for dates even though he doesnt even get a kiss from most girls, he cant talk to random hot girls in a bar/club environment (he simply is too shy to approach), and is deffnitely frustrated with the lack of success he gets - i got this all outta him while talking to him for 20 minutes

well, i sat there at the bar for about 10 minutes, next to my plate and some of her friends, giving him some tough love advice, in hopes of helping him........i told him the basics, such as not paying for a girl unless she is your gf who loves u, hanging out and having sex instead of going to dinners, amongst many other things

and my advice was overheard by other people, and they RIDICULED me, and told me im being an azz, and they helped reinforce the feelings within the AFC that what he is DOING IS RIGHT

i called their asses out right on the spot that they are stuck in the matrix and dont know how things truly work, to which i was met with even more ridicule, and i was even labeled as being drunk (i wasnt drunk, but i was drinking a beer)......................just all this BS that helped the AFC feel good about himself and his AFC status instead of listening to someone well-seasoned like me and taking my advice to heart


so i gave up............later that night, we were at another bar, he told a friend of his how cute he thought a girl was, but of course he didnt approach her, or any girl that night.........and his friend told me that that AFC is useless to help, and that the guys usually laugh at his lack of game

so fella's

THIS IS WHY AFC'S EXIST

because everyone around the AFC encourages them to continue to act AFC, and men like us with this kind of skills and knowledge are 1 in a million

i was p1ssed that night that i couldnt get through to that guy

 

[ChrizZ]

so i went to a bar with one of my plates this weekend, and she invited a bunch of her friends.........one of which is a total AFC that i had met before 6 months earlier

he is 28, had a 9yr relationship end when his girl dumped him rather nastily 7 months ago, and currently he is a state of the art AFC who pays for dates even though he doesnt even get a kiss from most girls, he cant talk to random hot girls in a bar/club environment (he simply is too shy to approach), and is deffnitely frustrated with the lack of success he gets - i got this all outta him while talking to him for 20 minutes

well, i sat there at the bar for about 10 minutes, next to my plate and some of her friends, giving him some tough love advice, in hopes of helping him........i told him the basics, such as not paying for a girl unless she is your gf who loves u, hanging out and having sex instead of going to dinners, amongst many other things

and my advice was overheard by other people, and they RIDICULED me, and told me im being an azz, and they helped reinforce the feelings within the AFC that what he is DOING IS RIGHT

i called their asses out right on the spot that they are stuck in the matrix and dont know how things truly work, to which i was met with even more ridicule, and i was even labeled as being drunk (i wasnt drunk, but i was drinking a beer)......................just all this BS that helped the AFC feel good about himself and his AFC status instead of listening to someone well-seasoned like me and taking my advice to heart


so i gave up............later that night, we were at another bar, he told a friend of his how cute he thought a girl was, but of course he didnt approach her, or any girl that night.........and his friend told me that that AFC is useless to help, and that the guys usually laugh at his lack of game

so fella's

THIS IS WHY AFC'S EXIST

because everyone around the AFC encourages them to continue to act AFC, and men like us with this kind of skills and knowledge are 1 in a million

i was p1ssed that night that i couldnt get through to that guy

The matrix is real, but most people are just flat out too stupid to question anything.

It's like they were given a manual at birth on how to live and nobody ever questions it since they are too occupied watching sitcoms, playing video games or buying high tech cell phones.

99% of all people are brainwashed by the media and are stuck in the matrix.

The media tells you not to approach women.

The media tells you to spend money on things that make absolutely no sense at all.

The media tells you to commit suicide.

The media tells you to become a slave.

The media tells you what to believe in.

Most people are like cows in a slaughterhouse and the ironic thing is that they don't even care that they are being slaughtered as long as they get enough grass to eat.

Read my sig...

 

[shinko]

From experience if you a firm set of believes that differ from the norm, a large number of people will be intimidated by it. What became apparent is that when you live your life my different standards and morals you force others to question and reflect on their own. it's very common for people to have beliefs and opinions which are "safe" and following the flow, effectively its a sheep following mentality.

Thus when these people hear your different perspective on things they either respond by either mocking you, ignoring you, or try to learn more. The first two are the most common since it doesnt require effort on their part and doesn't require them to shine a light on their own lives and really evaluate why they do what they do. It's a rare thing to find people who are introspective and make active steps to improve themselves.

It gets annoying at times having to always defend our outlook on life. but in respect to your friend, show him by example that there are better ways to live than following the crowd. As leaders we set the example and other follow. Even if he doesnt get it now, your mate we'll see the light eventually. Biggest thing you can do for him atm, is to stop him from spiralling into a 24/7 pity party, and stop him thinking that every women is a devil in disguise.

 

[ChrizZ]

bump

 

[Sir-M]

............later that night, we were at another bar, he told a friend of his how cute he thought a girl was, but of course he didnt approach her, or any girl that night.........

That would have been a very good time to approach the same girl he was talking about, get your game on and bag the chick...

 

[Social Calibration]

I must admit, a 9 year relationship is one helluva long time. I don't blame him if he feels a bit down with himself at the bar and lacks the social confidence at the time to approach women.

I'd lay things on him a bit easily, depending on who you are, 9 years isn't exactly something you can just get up and walk away from, unless the relationship sucked during the 9 years, which would make no sense to be in in the first place.

 

[MotownMack]

and my advice was overheard by other people, and they RIDICULED me, and told me im being an azz, and they helped reinforce the feelings within the AFC that what he is DOING IS RIGHT

I get this all the time, actually, to the point where I just keep my mouth shut and don't try to help. The tough part for me is that some of this stuff has been become so ingrained, it's just how I think now-and when I offer my opinion, it just comes out.

It seems as though when I actually have time to explain to a man or a woman DJ theory, they usually agree. It's the sound bites, or small overheard pieces of information, that cause the arguments.

I have said this a million times on here and I will say it a million more. It wasn't like I couldn't get a girl to go out with me, then one day went out and bought how to pick up chicks books and now run around spouting off a bunch of theories. I WAS getting dates, and I WAS going out, but I was frustrated and confused. THEN I started reading some of this stuff and thought "Holy crap, that's what my problem is!"

I was familiar with this reality before I learned any theory, so I know it's true. If others don't want to believe it or want to argue it, thats their fvcking problem.

 

[IPalindromeI]

I find it ironic that these girls are saying 'AFC is doing the right thing, you should be more like him' - yet... none of them will actually date him. I would have asked the loudest girl when she planned on sleeping with AFC, and if she sputtered, I'd smirk and say 'case closed' and walk away.

 

[MacAvoy]

Yes the reason for the AFC is because society teaches him that this is how he is suppose to act. Trying to simply tell him how its done isn't going to work, next time your out and he points out some cut girl, go up to her and talk to her and get her number.

However I wouldn't tell him that your doing it till after you get her number cuz on the chance you she's not available, then they'll use that to bolster their argument.

Then after a few successful dates with this women, invite her out with these AFC friends and show them how life can be lived. Lead by example my friend.

 

[MikeYikes122]

and my advice was overheard by other people, and they RIDICULED me, and told me im being an azz, and they helped reinforce the feelings within the AFC that what he is DOING IS RIGHT

i called their asses out right on the spot that they are stuck in the matrix and dont know how things truly work, to which i was met with even more ridicule, and i was even labeled as being drunk (i wasnt drunk, but i was drinking a beer)......................just all this BS that helped the AFC feel good about himself and his AFC status instead of listening to someone well-seasoned like me and taking my advice to heart

No. 1 rule of Fight Club: Don't tell anybody about Fight Club.

I'm often in the same situation. About 80 percent of my friends are AFCs or they display huge AFC tendencies. I've tried to "break them out" in the past, so to speak, but I'm only met with the same kind of resistance you received. The thing is, the Matrix is named accordingly because it is so far-fetched - by society's standards at least - that the people living within it are trapped and unwilling to see the truth.

It's a sh!tty situation to watch your friends fail with women and be miserable, but I've learned there really isn't much you can do unless they come to you for guidance.

Probably the worst thing you can do is talk about this stuff in front of women. It takes a very rare breed of female to actually admit that SoSuave has it right.

 

[Max Power]

As many people here can attest, it's very difficult to get even your friends to believe the DJ stuff works, let alone a perfect stranger.

I've tried with my friends, all but a couple continue to live in the so-called matrix.

 

[Sir-M]

I find it ironic that these girls are saying 'AFC is doing the right thing, you should be more like him' - yet... none of them will actually date him. I would have asked the loudest girl when she planned on sleeping with AFC, and if she sputtered, I'd smirk and say 'case closed' and walk away.

We all know that girls love that sweet dude that they can use & manipulate but not sleep with him, and that girls will let you waste your time & money on them even if they dont like ya a$$... Forget about Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation... AFCs donate billions to chicks they dont lay

 

[SinJester]

I can think of a certain horse and water metaphor that would be appropriate here.

I don't even bother trying to explain, especially to women. The best you can do for most guys is give them some tips that aren't too far out. Although I am firm with my beliefs and occasionally the come accross vocally, almost always to be disagreed with. I just stay firm and don't care if the other person believes me or not.

Oh well that's just less guys that we have to contend with.

However there is this one really embarrasing case where I was trying to teach one of my friends to be a DJ, he didn't listen to me and went and got this hot girl by being an AFC. They've been going out for a year now... Really fcked me up for awhile.

 

[playa99]

we are encouraged by virtually everyone around us to maintain AFC tendencies as they dont know better its not their fault, movies tell us we should buy the girl flowers we should beg them the list goes on and on and on, but they are films, fictuous, we see girls loving this behaviour so we naturally believe we should act this way. WRONG girls dont wont this, it is their logic thinking. They should want a guy like this, but they dont think with logic when it comes down to men, they think sexually like we should, we have testosterone. We continue to think with logic and it does NOT work, we read more magazines see more films and we continue to believe the bull**** that society and the media feeds us. We then turn to our friends who see the same sh*t as us and give us the advice that the media would give us which is ultimately useless, leaving us bewildered and in a constant AFC state. We know we are doing something wrong, but brad pitt is in a film giving flowers to a woman, so we must be doing something right we are giving tokens of affection to women, they must love us.

That is just a sample of my opinion on the world as it is nowadays, how society limits us and how to build mental toughness to get out of the AFC cycle and become a DON JUAN

 

[DonGorgon]

Success breeds confidence... Some say confidence breeds Success but many men find it hard to be confident when they have a very high failure rate.. Soo he need to aim lower at first go for 4s and 5s who are less intimidating .. then move up to the 7s and 8s once he has built up that confidence that those more attractive women demand from a man.. ..

 

[positivity_injection]

wow great points by all, it would take a helluva long time to reply to you all, but here is my question:

how would I get through to an AFC that I barely know?

by the way, i couldnt approach that cute girl that he wanted to talk to because my girl was right there with me AND it was her birthday, sooooo that wasn't gonna happen unfortunately

 

[lookyoung]

wow great points by all, it would take a helluva long time to reply to you all, but here is my question:

how would I get through to an AFC that I barely know?

by the way, i couldnt approach that cute girl that he wanted to talk to because my girl was right there with me AND it was her birthday, sooooo that wasn't gonna happen unfortunately

If you barely know him than fvck him. Let him die an AFC. You have to worry about yourself. You can't save the world.

 

[DonGorgon]

wow great points by all, it would take a helluva long time to reply to you all, but here is my question:

how would I get through to an AFC that I barely know?

Make him your buddy and include him in activities with your women friends.. He will benefit from your social proof and the women will be more open to him so he can practice some game..

 

[Max Power]

Forget about Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation... AFCs donate billions to chicks they dont lay

It's funny because it's true. :crackup:

 

[playa99]

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how would I get through to an AFC that I barely know?

ive tried, they are very very stubborn generally the ones who are willing to learn are the people on this website, i've found 1 person who is willing to change his ways out of about 20. I believe that the media has had to much of an imprint on their minds, we cannot display higher value than the media though, so most of the time their is no point trying